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Nixon & Bull on Oval Office and Interior design

Friday, April 9, 1971 · 8:40 AM–8:52 AM ET · Oval Office · 58 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation476-004 on Tape 476 (tape position 00:03:09–00:04:46)StartFriday, April 9, 1971 at 8:40 AMEndFriday, April 9, 1971 at 8:52 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 476-004 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met briefly to discuss the aesthetic specifications for a picture frame and review the President’s upcoming schedule. Nixon requested a gold-style frame for a piece of property, emphasizing a specific color and appearance. Bull also updated the President regarding an imminent meeting involving David Eisenhower.

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Morning, Mr. President.
I stopped by to read that bill.
The business owner asked you this question, but recall this is the bill.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm wondering if you had any thoughts for anyone to hang, you know, to get a property to rent.
Yeah.
Well... Is there anything specific you'd like to do to get a frame as appropriate for this, or is there... Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I don't have anything right, but I'll let me, uh...
It should have a gold type of frame, like that kind of thing.
So it's not that white, it's a gold frame, because that's what it is, it's gold and a thing.
Another thing, we'll see what we want.
I believe you and David are expecting to hear a lot of talk today.
It's in five minutes.

On April 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:40 am and 8:52 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 476-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 476-4

Date: April 9, 1971
Time: Unknown between 8:40 am and 8:52 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with an Stephen B. Bull

     Picture frame
           -Location for hanging
           -Gold

     President’s schedule
          -Meeting with T. Kong Lee [?] and [Name unintelligible]

Bull left at an unknown time before 8:52 am
  • 001-054 8:40 AM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:40 am and 10:02 am.
  • 476-003 8:40 AM · 2 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:40 am and 8:52 am.
  • 476-005 8:40 AM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:40 am and 8:52 am.
  • 476-006 8:40 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:40 am and 8:52 am.
  • 476-007 8:52 AM · 1 hr 12 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:52 am to 9:58 am.
  • 001-055 10:03 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone from 10:03 am to 10:27 am.
  • 476-008 10:03 AM · 24 min — President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:03 am to 10:27 am.
  • 001-056 10:27 AM · 2 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone from 10:27 am to 10:28 am.

Conversation 476-004, April 9, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/476-004 (accessed October 12, 2026).