Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 642 › Conversation 642-035

Nixon with unidentified visitors in the Oval Office on Jack J. Dreyfus Jr.

Monday, January 3, 1972 · 12:16 PM–12:18 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)]Conversation642-035 on Tape 642 (tape position 05:17:03–05:17:36)StartMonday, January 3, 1972 at 12:16 PMEndMonday, January 3, 1972 at 12:18 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 642-035 ↗

President Nixon consulted with an aide regarding his upcoming schedule and the logistical arrangements for a lunch meeting with Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr. The discussion centered on finalizing the timing and duration of this appointment. No formal decisions were recorded during this brief administrative exchange.

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5:17:13George, I wanted to ask you

On January 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 642-035 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 642-35

Date: January 3, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with an unknown person.

     The President's schedule
          -Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr.
                -Lunch
                -Duration of meeting
  • 018-008 12:13 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and George E. Allen talked on the telephone from 12:13 pm to 12:15 pm.
  • 018-009 12:16 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 12:16 pm.
  • 018-010 12:16 PM · 55 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, and Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm.
  • 642-032 12:16 PM · 59 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:16 pm.
  • 642-033 12:16 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm.
  • 642-034 12:16 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, and Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm.
  • 642-036 12:16 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm.
  • 642-037 12:18 PM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John W. Kauffman, Stephen M. Morris, Jack A. L. Hahn, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., James H. Cavanaugh, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:18 pm to 12:32 pm.

Conversation 642-035, January 3, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/642-035 (accessed September 30, 2026).