Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 18 › Conversation 018-009

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on George P. Shultz

Monday, January 3, 1972 · 12:16 PM ET · White House Telephone · 9 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation018-009 on Tape 18 (tape position 00:11:10–00:11:18)StartMonday, January 3, 1972 at 12:16 PMEndMonday, January 3, 1972 at 12:16 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 018-009 ↗

President Nixon instructed the White House operator to facilitate a conference call with Office of Management and Budget Director George P. Shultz and Deputy Director Caspar Weinberger. The objective of the call was to coordinate a direct discussion with his two key budget advisors. The operator confirmed the request and immediately initiated the process to connect the participants.

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Yes, sir?
Would you set up a conference call, get Schultz and Weinberger on the other lines?
Can you do that?
Right, surely.

On January 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 12:16 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 018-009 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 18-9

Date: January 3, 1972
Time: 12:16 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See Conversation No. 642-32]

     Request for a conference call with George P. Shultz and Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
  • 018-008 12:13 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and George E. Allen talked on the telephone from 12:13 pm to 12:15 pm.
  • 018-010 12:16 PM · 55 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, and Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm.
  • 642-032 12:16 PM · 59 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:16 pm.
  • 642-033 12:16 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm.
  • 642-034 12:16 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, and Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm.
  • 642-035 12:16 PM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm.
  • 642-036 12:16 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:18 pm.
  • 642-037 12:18 PM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John W. Kauffman, Stephen M. Morris, Jack A. L. Hahn, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., James H. Cavanaugh, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:18 pm to 12:32 pm.

Conversation 018-009, January 3, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/018-009 (accessed September 30, 2026).