Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 644 › Conversation 644-008

Nixon & Bull on Health Service Industry Committee and W. Kenneth Riland

Monday, January 10, 1972 · 11:52 AM–11:55 AM ET · Oval Office · 50 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation644-008 on Tape 644 (tape position 01:38:39–01:39:49)StartMonday, January 10, 1972 at 11:52 AMEndMonday, January 10, 1972 at 11:55 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 644-008 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to finalize scheduling arrangements for upcoming meetings, specifically regarding Dr. W. Kenneth Riland and the Health Service Industry Committee. They discussed the coordination of photo sessions and the potential need for tentative scheduling of these appointments. The President instructed Bull to expedite the departure of the health services representatives following their session.

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Mr. President, you will see Dr. Brown on this, uh, next Wednesday.
Uh...
I think, uh, I would be happy if we, uh... We can put him on, Captain.
We'll put him on tentatively, you know, Captain.
Because we, uh, I may have to be in a tentative position.
All right.
Thank you.
to get the health services the hell out of here.
Are they ready?
I'll do that, buddy.
All right, I'll do the audio, OK?

On January 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:52 am and 11:55 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 644-008 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 644-8

Date: January 10, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:52 am and 11:55 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/03/2022.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[644-008-w001]
[Duration: 19s]

      The President’s schedule
           -Dr. W. Kenneth Riland

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     The President's schedule
          -Photograph sessions
               -Health Service Industry Committee
               -[David] Kenneth Rush

     Taping of audio messages

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:55 am.
  • 644-017 10:50 AM · 58 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, John D. Ehrlichman, Arthur A. Fletcher, Robert J. Brown, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., Carthur L. M. Drake, Stanley S. Scott, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:50 am and 11:52 am.
  • 644-009 11:52 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:52 am and 11:55 am.
  • 644-018 11:52 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:52 am and 11:55 am.
  • 644-010 12:00 PM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 pm and 12:16 pm.
  • 644-011 12:00 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 pm and 12:16 pm.
  • 644-012 12:16 PM · 18 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Barbara Dunn, Karl D. Bays, Earl W. Brian, Rita R. Campbell, D. Brooks Chandler, Jane Claflin, Frank C. Coleman, James R. Cowan, Theodore EW. Cummings, Rosamond C. Gabrielson, James W. Haviland, John A. Hill, Alice K. Leopold, Kenneth M. McCaffree, J. Alexander McMahon, C. Joseph Stetler, William H. Thomas, Samuel J. Tibbitts, Donald J. Walden, John C. Whitwell, Raymond J. Waldeman, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Stephen B. Bull, John Tomayko, Doreas Hardy, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:16 pm to 12:34 pm.
  • 644-013 12:34 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:34 pm.
  • 644-014 12:35 PM · 48 min — President Richard M. Nixon, [David] Kenneth Rush, Col. Richard T. Kennedy, White House photographer, White House operator, and Peter M. Flanigan met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:35 pm to 1:24 pm.

Conversation 644-008, January 10, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/644-008 (accessed September 29, 2026).