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Nixon, Woods & Sanchez on White House scheduling and China diplomacy

Tuesday, January 11, 1972 · 12:16 PM–12:21 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Sanchez, ManoloConversation645-005 on Tape 645 (tape position 01:24:17–01:29:45)StartTuesday, January 11, 1972 at 12:16 PMEndTuesday, January 11, 1972 at 12:21 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 645-005 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with his personal secretary Rose Mary Woods and valet Manolo Sanchez to review administrative matters, including phone logs and upcoming scheduling requirements. The discussion addressed staffing concerns regarding the President’s impending trip to the People's Republic of China, specifically focusing on the involvement of USIA personnel and Henry Kissinger's decision-making process. The group also briefly touched upon recent public relations activities and upcoming swearing-in ceremonies.

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1:24:30So, I called Johnny Hector on his phone.

1:24:34So, do you have an answer to this matter for him?

1:24:38If I trust him on a call, or is he able to take care of that?

1:24:42There's a comment on your phone.

1:24:44Did you make that?

1:27:19Does Henry Kissinger decide he won't go to a place from the USIA board or whatever, suggesting someone from the USIA should be on it?

1:27:38We're not on a good time to make a visit from, you know, Samuel Lewis, let's not answer any questions.

1:27:48and at least the voice of the rapper represented.

1:27:49So how are they doing, Craig?

1:27:52It's better, basically, to get them to hold on to that.

1:27:56So if we don't just kind of go over there, then they can reach out and worry about us.

1:28:03I don't know if I'm doing it right.

1:28:05I don't know if I'm doing it right.

1:28:24Well, that was nice, wasn't it?

1:28:26And the reason why I asked them on the spot when they were there was one thing that got me excited.

1:28:34I wanted to see if you could do this.

1:28:37Well, I wondered if you could do this, and the other people did.

1:28:41I'm going to tell you.

1:28:42I don't want to do that.

1:28:44I don't want to do that.

1:28:56Consciousness is good for us if we want to be better.

1:28:59Yeah, if we want to be better.

1:29:03All right, I'm ready.

1:29:07Who's ready?

1:29:09Oh, maybe you.

1:29:10Aren't you going to come in for a second?

1:29:14I'm just standing.

1:29:15All right, how are we going to do this?

NARA Description

On January 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:16 pm to 12:21 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 645-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 645-5

Date: January 11, 1972
Time: 12:16 pm - 12:21 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

     The President's phone calls
          -John E. Nidecker
          -The Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
               -Gift
          -John B. and Idanell (Brill) (“Nellie”) Connally

     The President’s schedule
          -Speechwriting
               -[Unknown person]

*****************************************************************

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 29s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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     The President's trip to People's Republic of China [PRC]
          -US Information Agency [USIA] member
               -Henry A. Kissinger's decision
               -Henry Loomis, James A. Michener and John M. Shaheen
               -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

     The President’s schedule
          -Meeting [with Woods, Marjorie P. Acker, Mary A. Fenton], January 10, 1972
               -Publicity for Administration
          -Arthur S. Flemming swearing-in

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:16 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -Old Executive Office Building [EOB]

The President, Woods and Sanchez left at 12:21 pm.

Also recorded on January 11, 1972

018-063 12:21 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:21 pm and 12:29 pm.
312-018 12:21 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:21 pm and 12:29 pm.
312-019 12:21 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:21 pm and 12:29 pm.
312-020 12:21 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:21 pm and 12:29 pm.
645-006 12:21 PM · 36 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:21 pm and 11:59 pm.
645-007 12:21 PM · 28 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:21 pm and 11:59 pm.
018-064 12:29 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 12:29 pm to 12:35 pm.
312-021 12:29 PM · 1 hr 55 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:29 pm to 2:39 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 645-005, January 11, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/645-005 (accessed October 12, 2026).