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Nixon & Bull on Charles W. Colson and Clark MacGregor

Thursday, January 20, 1972 · 1:29 PM–1:33 PM ET · Oval Office · 12 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation652-004 on Tape 652 (tape position 00:18:47–00:21:17)StartThursday, January 20, 1972 at 1:29 PMEndThursday, January 20, 1972 at 1:33 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 652-004 ↗

President Nixon consulted with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate the schedules of Charles W. Colson and Clark MacGregor. The President instructed Bull to verify if either individual was available to meet immediately. The conversation resulted in Bull taking action to confirm the availability of these staff members for an impromptu briefing.

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You see if, uh, Colson, one of the folks that came in together says, yeah, they're free.
Either one.

On January 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:29 pm and 1:33 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 652-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 652-4

Date: January 20, 1972
Time: Unknown between 1:29 pm and 1:33 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President’s schedule
            -Charles W. Colson and Clark MacGregor
Bull left at an unknown time before 1:33 pm.
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  • 019-032 1:22 PM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:22 pm and 1:29 pm.
  • 019-033 1:22 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:22 pm and 1:29 pm.
  • 652-003 1:22 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Alexander P. Butterfield, unknown person(s), and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:22 pm and 1:33 pm.
  • 019-034 1:29 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 1:29 pm.
  • 652-005 1:33 PM · 37 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Clark MacGregor, Charles W. Colson, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:33 pm to 2:15 pm.
  • 652-006 2:20 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:20 pm and 2:30 pm.
  • 652-007 2:20 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:20 pm and 2:30 pm.

Conversation 652-004, January 20, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/652-004 (accessed October 11, 2026).