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Ziegler & Camp David operator on Charles W. Colson and Communications

Saturday, April 28, 1973 · 7:20 PM–8:10 PM ET · Camp David Study Table · 6 min

ParticipantsZiegler, Ronald L.; Camp David operatorConversation164-026 on Tape 164StartSaturday, April 28, 1973 at 7:20 PMEndSaturday, April 28, 1973 at 8:10 PMRecording deviceCamp David Study TableSourceNixon Library record for 164-026 ↗

Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler directed the Camp David operator to locate former aide Charles W. Colson, who was visiting his son in Princeton, New Jersey. The effort to reach Colson proved difficult as he was not registered at his expected motel and had uncertain travel plans for the evening. Ziegler specifically instructed the operator to maintain a professional demeanor and ensure the request did not appear overly urgent.

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Yes, sir.
Yeah, do you have Colson?
Not yet.
He's in Princeton, New Jersey, and we're trying to reach him.
I'll call you back.
May I ring you back?
How long will that be?
I don't know.
She's dialing the number now.
It's okay.
I'll hold.
I'm not impatient with you.
All right.
No, that's all right.
We know.
I'll just hold on here just a second.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Is he at that number?
No, he's not at that number, and I was trying to see.
He left this morning at 1115, so maybe he just hadn't checked in as yet, you know, at the motel for the evening.
But they didn't have him registered.
They didn't have him registered?
No.
But did they expect him?
He's checking for reservations now.
Okay, I'll hold just one more minute.
All right.
He went to see his son on a crew at Princeton, and his office was wanting him to stay over, but he was considering coming back tonight.
And he was going to go out to dinner with his son and all, so we haven't found him as yet.
Okay, well.
Can we continue?
Yeah, but don't make it sound too urgent, you know.
All right, right.
Don't make it sound too urgent, Helen.
You know how to handle it.
Yeah, right, sure.
Thanks.
Thank you.

On April 28, 1973, Ronald L. Ziegler and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:20 pm and 8:10 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 164-026 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 164-26

Date: April 28, 1973
Time: Unknown between 7:20 pm and 8:10 pm
Location: Camp David Study Table

Ronald L. Ziegler talked with the Camp David operator.

     Call to Charles W. Colson
           -Location
                 Princeton, New Jersey
           -Return call

[The operator placed the telephone on hold at an unknown time.]

     Colson’s location
          -Motel

[The operator placed the telephone on hold at an unknown time]

[Pause]

     Colson’s location
          -Plans
          -Search for Colson
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                           Conversation No. 164-26 (cont’d)

                 -Urgency
  • 164-024 7:06 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry E. Petersen talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:06 pm and 7:11 pm.
  • 164-025 7:20 PM · 3 min — Ronald L. Ziegler, Camp David operator, and Gerald L. Warren talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:20 pm and 8:10 pm.
  • 164-001 8:05 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 8:05 pm and 8:21 pm.
  • 164-027 10:05 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:05 am and 10:19 am.
  • 164-028 10:19 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:19 am and 10:25 am.
  • 164-029 10:25 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:25 am and 10:26 am.
  • 164-030 10:26 AM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon, William P. Rogers, and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:26 am and 10:36 am.
  • 164-031 10:36 AM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:36 am and 11:46 am.

Conversation 164-026, April 29, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/164-026 (accessed October 12, 2026).