Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 705 › Conversation 705-017

Nixon & Bull on National Alliance of Businessmen and James D. Hodgson

Monday, April 10, 1972 · 4:45 PM–4:46 PM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation705-017 on Tape 705 (tape position 04:38:55–04:40:40)StartMonday, April 10, 1972 at 4:45 PMEndMonday, April 10, 1972 at 4:46 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 705-017 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417181237 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with aide Stephen B. Bull to finalize logistical arrangements for his brief remarks at a reception for the National Alliance of Businessmen. They discussed the schedule for the event and the dinner hosted by Secretary of Labor James D. Hodgson, clarifying that the President’s participation would be limited to welcoming the guests. Nixon also decided that First Lady Pat Nixon’s attendance was unnecessary for the brief appearance.

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NARA Description

On April 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:45 pm to 4:46 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 705-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 705-17

Date: April 10, 1972
Time: 4:45 pm - 4:46 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President's schedule
          -The President's remarks at reception for members of the National Alliance of
                Businessmen
               -Number of guests
               -Dinner at State Department
                      -James D. Hodgson
               -Gordon M. Metcalf
               -John D. Harper
               -Instructions for the President
               -Refreshments
                      -State Department dinner
                            -Timing
                      -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                            -Attendance
                                 -Necessity

Bull left at 4:46 pm.

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What is the situation on this ?
Just as a remarks of greetings to the people there at 630, they have a dinner over at the State Department hosted by Secretary Hodgson.
and having your executive session this afternoon.
And Mr. Metcalf is going to like to hear you.
John Harper is the outgoing one.
They'll look at the platform.
They're not speaking or anything of that nature.
You're just coming in to welcome them.
This is just you participated in past years in various ways.
They'll have the usual four jurors and regressions, coxelles afterwards.
But they're going to the State Department for dinner.
Yes, sir.
They go to 631.
But they're only expecting us to go to this three-year period.
Yeah, for three years.
Well, you let me know when they're ready.
They're not ready now.
I'm not ready yet, sir.
You're running my bus right now.
I'm not expecting this.
In fact, it's only going to be one minute.
Yeah, good.
Well, don't have any...
speaking for these events, it isn't necessary for her to go.
I mean, don't go running off.
She was originally planning to attend, but when she, well, it would look to be out, but then she had to stay, and she called her damn parents, and she didn't do that, expected to attend.

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  • 705-015 4:00 PM · 36 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Alexander P. Butterfield, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 4:41 pm.
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 705-017, April 10, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417181237). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/705-017 (accessed November 15, 2026).