Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 728 › Conversation 728-001

Nixon & Colson on Richard G. Kleindienst and George P. Shultz

Tuesday, June 6, 1972 · 1:42 PM–1:59 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.Conversation728-001 on Tape 728 (tape position 00:01:40–00:19:52)StartTuesday, June 6, 1972 at 1:42 PMEndTuesday, June 6, 1972 at 1:59 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 728-001 ↗

President Nixon and Charles W. Colson met to discuss strategic administrative and legislative priorities, including the confirmation schedules for Richard Kleindienst and George P. Shultz. The conversation covered personnel matters involving key cabinet officials and the political implications of the President’s recent appearance at a joint session of Congress. They also touched upon national defense policy and administrative planning for upcoming presidential travel.

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3:41Sir, stop the alarm, please, yeah.
4:11Well, the climbing steps come up tomorrow.
4:13Oh, I know.
4:13I heard it earlier.
4:18Colin said he thought they might do it tomorrow.
4:20Maybe he didn't know.
4:27Oh, I see.
4:31Yeah.
5:02Sure.
5:33That's the way we're going to do it.
5:47That's the way we're going to do it.
5:51That's the way we're going to do it.
6:04Oh, I don't care.
6:04I was just asking on the call.
6:22Yeah.
6:22Yeah.
6:25Sure.
6:31Yeah.
6:33I saw that.
6:56Well, I think, actually, Bell not being a political Catholic officer, basically, because on that basis of national defense, it's not too bad, actually.
7:04I don't think he'd be triggered after all these kind of events, but he'd stand up for a strong national defense.
7:17Oh!
7:17What was the name?
7:23And what they certainly must be, they are really glad on this.
7:26It's a rule in the iron services, you know.
7:55Yeah, I think
9:12but you don't figure that the client is sent probably for the next week.
9:23Yeah, yeah.
9:38I see.
9:41Well, it'll be done.
9:42It'll be done.
9:43Well, I just heard from my nurse that when it's done, I have a week.
9:49Schultz is confirmed.
9:50He'll want to take a big one.
10:03Yeah.
10:12Yeah.
10:15Yeah.
10:15Yeah.
10:17Yeah, I would think it would be, yeah.
10:20Well, he did it all the time, so it's unbelievable.
10:24I just don't think they could possibly, possibly not be getting a bad impression of the country.
10:33I don't know.
10:34I don't know if some of his magazines picked up the fact that there are so few of them who came to the joint session.
10:39Well, that isn't all that many.
10:57For sure, yeah.
10:58Okay.
11:08And they'll all be getting on those.
19:30Go through these now, sir.
19:35All right.

On June 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:42 pm to 1:59 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 728-001 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 728-1

Date: June 6, 1972
Time: 1:42-1:59 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

[See Conversation No. 25-14 and 25-15]

[The first portion of this conversation may have been recorded on Conversation No. 25-15;
however this recording is inaudible due to poor volume]

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 18s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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     George C. Wallace
         -Health

     Richard G. Kleindienst’s confirmation
          -Timing
          -H.R. Haldeman

     John B. Connally

     George P. Shultz
         -Wilbur D. Mills
         -Connally

     Melvin R. Laird
         -National defense budget
         -Armed services

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 11s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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    The President's schedule
         -Camp David
              -Henry A. Kissinger
                     -Japan trip

    Kleindienst
         -Confirmation schedule

    Shultz
         -Confirmation

    Congress
        -Impression nationwide
        -Joint session of Congress
              -The President’s speech
              -Public relations

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 6m 46s ]

[THIS PORTION OF CONVERSATION IS RECORDED IN CONVERSATION NO. 25-15;
ONE ITEM HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM THIS CONVERSATION]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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  • 025-015 1:42 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 1:42 pm to 1:57 pm.
  • 025-016 2:01 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:01 pm and 2:05 pm.
  • 025-017 2:01 PM · 2 min — unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:01 pm and 2:05 pm.
  • 728-002 2:01 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:01 pm and 2:04 pm.
  • 728-003 2:01 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:01 pm and 2:04 pm.
  • 728-004 2:01 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:01 pm and 2:04 pm.
  • 728-005 2:04 PM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:04 pm to 2:17 pm.
  • 728-006 2:17 PM · 50 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 2:17 pm.

Conversation 728-001, June 6, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/728-001 (accessed October 9, 2026).