Conversation: 744-021
Prev: 744-020 Next: 744-022Start Date: Friday, June 30, 1972 6:55 PM
End Date: Friday, June 30, 1972 7:18 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); MacGregor, Clark; Bull, Stephen B.; Lagdameo, Ernesto V.; Lagdameo, Ernesto V. (Mrs.)Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:30:38
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:53:45
NARA Description:
On June 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Clark MacGregor, Stephen B. Bull, Ernesto V. Lagdameo, and Mrs. Ernesto V. Lagdameo met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:55 pm to 3:18 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 744-021 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 744-21
Date: June 30, 1972
Time: 2:55-3:18 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Clark MacGregor.
[This recording began at an unknown time while the meeting was in progress.]
Social Security bill
-Frank T. Church amendment
-Possible veto
-Cost to Social Security reserves
-Fears of elderly
-The President's position
-Effects of veto of debt ceiling bill
-Future debt ceiling bills
-Congressional support
-Samuel L. Devine
-Ways and Means Committee
-John W. Byrnes, Barber B. Conable, Jr.
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Possible testimony
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Byrnes
-Effects of passage
-Welfare reform bill (House Resolution [HR] 1)
-Administration plan to delay Congressional adjournment
-Possible statement about the President's feeling on Social Security
-Record of the President's administration
-Richardson
-George P. Shultz's opinion on administration's fight
-Richardson
-Fight in committee
-Possible amendments
-Rules of debate
-Byrnes
-Leslie C. Arends
-Jackson E. Betts
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-02)
Conv. No. 744-21 (cont.)
-Arends
-Conable
-John B. Anderson
-John J. Rhodes
-George H. Mahon
The President’s forthcoming meeting with Ernesto V. Lagdameo
-MacGregor's trip to Manila
Social Security bill
-Possible veto
-MacGregor’s view
-Fight in committee
-Campaign issue
-Reasons for veto
-Debt ceiling extensions
-Political motivations of Congressional Democrats
George S. McGovern
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 37s ]
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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:55 pm.
The President's schedule
-Anna C. Chennault
Bull left at an unknown time before 3:12 pm.
The President's schedule
-MacGregor
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-02)
Conv. No. 744-21 (cont.)
Social Security bill
-Shultz
-Caspar W. Weinberger
Chennault, Lagdameo, and Mrs. Ernesto Lagdameo entered at 3:12 pm.
Greetings
Arrangements for photograph
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:12 pm.
The President's schedule
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Ronald L. Ziegler
Gifts
Photographs
bull left at an unknown time before 3:18 pm.
MacGregor
Chennault
Presentation of gifts by the President
Parties
The President's schedule
MacGregor, et al., left at 3:18 pm.