Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 781 › Conversation 781-033
Nixon, Ziegler & Bull on Miss America and Rose Garden
Monday, September 18, 1972 · 11:17 AM–11:18 AM ET · Oval Office · 2 min
AI Summary
President Nixon met with Ronald Ziegler and Stephen B. Bull to coordinate a Rose Garden event involving Miss America winners Terry Ann Meeuwson and Laurie Lee Schaefer. The discussion focused on the logistics of the contestants' tour, the management of their appearance, and the involvement of their chaperones. The meeting served to finalize details for the President’s scheduled interaction with the titleholders.
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NARA Description
On September 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:17 am to 11:18 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 781-033 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 781-33
Date: September 18, 1972
Time: 11:17 am – 11:18 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Ronald Ziegler.
Miss America [Terry Ann Meeuwson and Laurie Lee Schaefer]
-Tour
-Manager
-Rose Garden
Stephen B. Bull entered at 11:17 am.
-White House
Ziegler left at 11:17 am.
Unknown men entered and left at an unknown time.
Ziegler entered at an unknown time.
-Chaperones
The President's previous meeting with Schaefer
Ziegler left at 11:18 am.
Bull left at 11:18 am.Also recorded on September 18, 1972
- 781-007 11:18 AM · 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Terry Ann Meeuwsen, Beverly Meeuwsen, Laurie Lee Schaefer, Dorothy Schwager, and Henry C. Cashen, II met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:18 am to 11:33 am.
- 781-008 11:33 AM · 22 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:33 am and 11:36 am.
- 781-009 11:37 AM · 28 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:37 am.
- 781-010 11:37 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Jack O. Hicks, John J. Keller, William F. Rhatican, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:37 am to 11:44 am.
- 781-011 11:45 AM · 35 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:45 am.
- 781-012 11:45 AM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, David N. Henderson, John E. Nidecker, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:45 am to 11:52 am.
- 781-013 11:53 AM · 30 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:53 am.
- 781-014 11:54 AM · 23 min — President Richard M. Nixon, William M. Colmer, Adm. Wallis M. Enger, George Ryder, John E. Nidecker, White House photographer, William E. Timmons, Manolo Sanchez, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:54 am to 12:16 pm.
Cite this conversation
Conversation 781-033, September 18, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/781-033 (accessed October 1, 2026).