Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 825 › Conversation 825-005

Nixon & Bull on Spiro T. Agnew and Henry A. Kissinger

Saturday, December 16, 1972 · 9:50 AM–9:58 AM ET · Oval Office · 31 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation825-005 on Tape 825StartSaturday, December 16, 1972 at 9:50 AMEndSaturday, December 16, 1972 at 9:58 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 825-005 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his daily schedule and manage administrative details. They discussed upcoming meetings with Vice President Spiro T. Agnew and reviewed the scheduling for Henry Kissinger. During the discussion, Nixon focused on revising specific language within a memorandum directed at Kissinger.

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I think he's going to get heavy on that.

Well, maybe he's going to get a little bit.

And this will change.

Look at the words.

Why?

See where I see it.

So now I'm going to start changing it.

NARA Description

On December 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:50 am and 9:58 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 825-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 825-5

Date: December 16, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:50 am and 9:58 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President’s schedule
            -Meeting with Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                  -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                  -Henry A. Kissinger’s schedule
                         -Note from Haig
                                               -7-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                              Conversation No. 825-5 (cont’d)

       The President’s memorandum to Kissinger
            -Change

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:58 am.

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825-002 9:15 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Zosimo T. Monzon, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:15 am and 9:37 am.
825-003 9:15 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:15 am and 9:37 am.
825-004 9:37 AM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:37 am to 9:50 am.
825-006 9:58 AM · 51 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Stephen B. Bull, and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:58 am to 10:46 am.
825-007 10:46 AM · 27 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:46 am and 10:50 am.
825-008 10:46 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:46 am and 10:50 am.
825-009 10:46 AM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:46 am and 10:50 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 825-005, December 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/825-005 (accessed October 5, 2026).