Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 832 › Conversation 832-001

Nixon, Stapp & Rodgers on Driver of the Year and Trucking industry

Wednesday, January 3, 1973 · 3:32 PM–3:39 PM ET · Oval Office · 7 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Stapp, Curtis C.; Stapp, Curtis C. (Mrs.); Stapp, Donna; Rodgers, Donald F.; Atkins, Oliver F. ("Ollie")Conversation832-001 on Tape 832StartWednesday, January 3, 1973 at 3:32 PMEndWednesday, January 3, 1973 at 3:39 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 832-001 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Curtis C. Stapp, the 1973 'Driver of the Year,' his family, and Donald F. Rodgers to celebrate the professional accomplishments of the trucking industry. The discussion touched upon the importance of driver health screenings, road courtesy, and the general state of the Teamsters Union. Nixon also engaged in casual conversation regarding sports and golf, acknowledging the political support he received from Teamsters President Frank E. Fitzsimmons.

  • Driver of the Year
  • Trucking industry
  • Teamsters
  • Frank E. Fitzsimmons
  • Public relations
  • Occupational health

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My God, how are you?
Here you are.
44 years?
Derrickson, the next second guy, Derrickson is a human footballer.
Not quite.
Not quite.
No, you're not that old.
We've heard a lot about you.
Well, I'll tell you.
When I was so pleased to know that one of our California boys won, I got to rate the boatman's win and everything.
You said 30 runs.
Oh, yeah.
But the baseball team won.
I got to do with that game.
That was really cool.
Oh, that was amazing.
That's right.
Mr
Every year, every year.
This, uh, this is a...
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm really proud of that.
You know, the thing that always impresses me about publishing your profession is that, like I've often said, you see, they're non-secrecy.
You know, they have this new development.
I used to drive a lot, you know, I don't now because I had to drive a new car for four years.
But they, you see, the service drives across the world.
Anyway, the way that on the
That has always been my whole thing, is courtesy.
I really think that's what it's taught me all these years.
I feel that I am courtesy.
You have to have a physical exam every year.
Is that done by you?
No, the company.
The company.
And what do they give you, an exam for eyes and heart and all that sort of thing, just to be sure?
Real fitness, just everything.
That's very important.
Because, you know, people can have some, you know, they don't realize that.
I like that idea real well, because then I can go to a law doctor.
I'd like to know all the stuff that I'm sure to know what I am now.
Well, we want to thank you for taking us.
We couldn't wait.
We appreciate the honor that our state has received and that your profession has received.
What do you think?
What?
Good for you.
Oh, yeah.
Lake Mary, that's exactly where it is, right?
But you're the only one.
Oh, I don't need you.
There's a good man here.
Good man.
He's going to see his other president tomorrow.
Frank.
Yeah.
I don't know when he's going to get a hold of him.
You don't know what I'm talking about.
He's got four years now to get a hold of him.
I promised him an argument with the head of the
has changed all the executive order.
Now, I own a couple of armistories here in Boston.
And we all hit it to a small, just a three-hole sign.
We all tried to, each one of us hit a golf ball.
I got close to the goal, I think.
But I told about 15 of them, and I said, now, look, can anyone of you that gets a hole in one before the election on a regulation course, I'll give them a set of golf balls.
I met that president.
Because I haven't talked to him yet, and I'm supposed to in a while, but in our magazine, you know, we've been backing you up 100%.
All right.
Good luck.

NARA Description

On January 3, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Curtis C. Stapp, Mrs. Curtis C. Stapp, Donna Stapp, Donald F. Rodgers, and Oliver F. ("Ollie") Atkins met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:32 pm and 3:39 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 832-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 832-1

Date: January 3, 1973
Time: Unknown between 3:32 pm and 3:39 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Curtis C. Stapp, Mrs. Curtis Stapp, Donna Stapp, and Donald F.
Rodgers. The White House photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning
of the meeting.

       Greetings

       Congratulations

       Sports
             -California

       Photograph session
            -Arrangements
            -Copies
            -Press

       1973 "Driver of the Year" award
            -Truck driving
                  -The President’s driving
                         -Secret Service
                  -Courteous driving
                  -Physical examinations
                         -Union
                         -Company

       Rose Garden
            -Tricia Nixon Cox’s wedding location
                  -Television [TV]

       Meeting with the President
            -Appreciation
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                         Conversation No. 832-1 (cont’d)

        Rodgers

        Frank E. Fitzsimmons
             -Golf
             -International Brotherhood of Teamsters
                    -Support for the President

Stapp, et al., left at 3:39 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 832-001, January 3, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/832-001 (accessed October 12, 2026).