Nixon White House TapesTape 20 › Conversation 020-017

Nixon phone call with Gubser on Political support and Congressional relations

Wednesday, February 2, 1972 · 9:10 AM–9:13 AM ET · White House Telephone ·58 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Gubser, Charles S.Conversation020-017 onTape 20 (tape position 00:42:42–00:43:38)StartWednesday, February 2, 1972 at 9:10 AMEndWednesday, February 2, 1972 at 9:13 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 020-017 ↗

President Nixon received a brief congratulatory telephone call from Congressman Charles S. Gubser regarding the President's recent birthday. The conversation served primarily as a social pleasantry, during which Nixon acknowledged Gubser's legislative support. The President concluded the call by commending Gubser's ongoing loyalty and advocacy for the administration's agenda.

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I have Congressman Goops here, Mr. President.
Hello.
Good morning.
Hi, Charlie.
I just noticed from reading one of my reports from Timmons that you had a birthday, and I wanted to tell you that I didn't realize you were that old.
You've got all that, you've got that young spirit and everything, and boy, just keep going, huh?
Well, I'm going to try to keep going, Mr. President.
This is awfully nice.
Well, you're still full of fight, are you?
What did you do yesterday?
You go home and celebrate in the office?
No, I rushed the season a little bit and had an early barbecue last evening.
Did you?
Yeah, it's a good thing you got in for the snow, yeah, right.
Oh, this is so nice of you, Mr. President, and I appreciate it greatly.
It's good to talk to you, and we sure appreciate the fine support you've been giving us.
Well, you'll continue to get it, I promise you that.
You not only vote right, but you talk good.
Okay.
Thanks a lot.
Bye-bye.

On February 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles S. Gubser talked on the telephone from 9:10 am to 9:13 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 020-017 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 20-17

Date: February 2, 1972
Time: 9:10 am - 9:13 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles S. Gubser.

[See Conversation No. 664-2]

     Birthday greetings
          -William E. Timmons
          -Gubser’s schedule
          -Gubser’s support for President
  • 020-016 8:51 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:51 am and 9:10 am.
  • 664-002 9:10 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles S. Gubser met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:10 am to 9:13 am.
  • 020-018 9:13 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:13 am and 9:14 am.
  • 664-003 9:13 AM · 34 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:13 am and 9:14 am.
  • 664-004 9:13 AM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:13 am and 9:14 am.
  • 020-019 9:14 AM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thomas N. Downing talked on the telephone from 9:14 am to 9:15 am.
  • 664-005 9:14 AM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thomas N. Downing met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:14 am to 9:15 am.
  • 664-006 9:15 AM · 49 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, Henry A. Kissinger, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:15 am to 10:05 am.

Conversation 020-017, February 2, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/020-017 (accessed September 18, 2026).