Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-029

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on White House Garden Tour

Saturday, April 14, 1973 · 4:58 PM–4:59 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation038-029 on Tape 38StartSaturday, April 14, 1973 at 4:58 PMEndSaturday, April 14, 1973 at 4:59 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-029 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon discussed their respective evening schedules and the success of the ongoing White House garden tour. Pat Nixon reported a high volume of positive attendee engagement, particularly noting the demeanor of the guests, while the President coordinated a meal plan due to his need to continue drafting remarks. They concluded by confirming logistics for David and Julie Eisenhower's attendance at the upcoming White House Correspondents’ dinner.

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Hi.
Oh, Pat, I wanted to tell you that I have to do a little more work over here.
I'm not going to speak long, but I've got to do some work on my remarks.
I'm just going to stay here and eat a bite because I don't want to eat much.
So would you go ahead and have something to eat there?
Yeah.
How'd the thing go today?
Oh, my gosh, they're still piling through.
Good.
By the thousands.
You know, it's funny, those little blackheads, they're so uncommunicated.
Well, but these were better than most.
Did you know that?
Is that right?
They were all dressed up and everything.
Yeah, they were nicely dressed.
Yeah.
Well, you've got to give it back, though, you know.
Yeah, well, with you, I think it was a little different.
They were better, you know.
I see.
They were kind of.
Well, they were overcome a bit.
Yeah.
It worked real well.
Did they think it was a success, the people that were there?
Oh, my gosh, I'll say.
Lots of people coming through, huh?
Oh, they're still coming through.
Wonderful.
Yeah.
Wonderful.
David and Julie are going over to the dinner, aren't they?
Yeah.
We go at 8.45, so you get a bite now, and I'll get a bite about 6.30.
Okay.
Okay, good.

NARA Description

On April 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 4:58 pm to 4:59 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-029 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 38-29

Date: April 14, 1973
Time: 4:58 pm - 4:59 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

[See also Conversation No. 428-27]

     President’s schedule
           -Work on remarks
           -Dinner

     Garden tour
          -Number of attendees
                -Children
                -Blacks
                -Greetings for President

     Dwight David Eisenhower, II and Julie Nixon Eisenhower
         -White House Correspondents’ dinner
               -President’s schedule

Also recorded on April 14, 1973

  • 038-028 3:55 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 4:58 pm.
  • 428-027 4:58 PM · 50 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:58 pm to 4:59 pm.
  • 038-030 5:15 PM · 15 sec — John D. Ehrlichman and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:15 pm and 6:08 pm.
  • 038-031 5:15 PM · 12 min — John D. Ehrlichman and Richard G. Kleindienst talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:15 pm and 6:08 pm.
  • 428-028 5:15 PM · 57 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, Richard G. Kleindienst, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:15 pm to 6:45 pm.
  • 038-032 6:08 PM · 49 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 6:08 pm to 6:09 pm.
  • 428-029 6:45 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:45 pm and 8:11 pm.
  • 428-030 6:45 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:45 pm and 8:11 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 038-029, April 14, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-029 (accessed October 12, 2026).