Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-028

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller

Saturday, April 14, 1973 · 3:55 PM–4:58 PM ET · White House Telephone · 16 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation038-028 on Tape 38StartSaturday, April 14, 1973 at 3:55 PMEndSaturday, April 14, 1973 at 4:58 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-028 ↗

President Nixon initiates a request for the White House operator to connect him with First Lady Thelma C. ("Pat") Nixon. The brief interaction serves solely as a procedural step to facilitate a personal telephone call between the President and his wife.

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This is Nixon, please.
Yes, sir.

On April 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 4:58 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-028 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-28

Date: April 14, 1973
Time: Unknown between 3:55 pm and 4:58 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

     Telephone call to Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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  • 896-002 1:52 PM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:52 pm and 2:13 pm.
  • 896-005 2:13 PM · 1 hr 46 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Manolo Sanchez, unknown person(s), and Jeb Stuart Magruder met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:13 pm and 3:55 pm.
  • 038-029 4:58 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 4:58 pm to 4:59 pm.
  • 428-027 4:58 PM · 50 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:58 pm to 4:59 pm.
  • 038-030 5:15 PM · 15 sec — John D. Ehrlichman and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:15 pm and 6:08 pm.
  • 038-031 5:15 PM · 12 min — John D. Ehrlichman and Richard G. Kleindienst talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:15 pm and 6:08 pm.
  • 428-028 5:15 PM · 57 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, Richard G. Kleindienst, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:15 pm to 6:45 pm.

Conversation 038-028, April 14, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-028 (accessed October 5, 2026).