Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-030

Ehrlichman phone call on Richard G. Kleindienst and Watergate scandal

Saturday, April 14, 1973 · 5:15 PM–6:08 PM ET · White House Telephone · 15 sec

ParticipantsEhrlichman, John D.; White House operatorConversation038-030 on Tape 38StartSaturday, April 14, 1973 at 5:15 PMEndSaturday, April 14, 1973 at 6:08 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-030 ↗

John D. Ehrlichman contacted the White House operator to request an urgent telephone connection to Attorney General Richard G. Kleindienst at his private residence. This brief administrative interaction served as the initiation of a high-level communication between Ehrlichman and the Justice Department during the height of the Watergate investigations. No substantive discussion occurred during this exchange beyond the facilitation of the call.

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Yes, please?
This is John Ehrlichman.
Would you get the Attorney General at home for me, please?
Certainly.
Thank you.

On April 14, 1973, John D. Ehrlichman and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:15 pm and 6:08 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-030 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-30

Date: April 14, 1973
Time: Unknown between 5:15 pm and 6:08 pm
Location: White House Telephone

John D. Ehrlichman talked with the White House operator.

[See also Conversation No. 428-28A]

     Telephone call to Richard G. Kleindienst
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                                Conversation No. 38-31 (cont’d)
  • 038-028 3:55 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 4:58 pm.
  • 038-029 4:58 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 4:58 pm to 4:59 pm.
  • 428-027 4:58 PM · 50 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:58 pm to 4:59 pm.
  • 038-031 5:15 PM · 12 min — John D. Ehrlichman and Richard G. Kleindienst talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:15 pm and 6:08 pm.
  • 428-028 5:15 PM · 57 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, Richard G. Kleindienst, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:15 pm to 6:45 pm.
  • 038-032 6:08 PM · 49 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 6:08 pm to 6:09 pm.
  • 428-029 6:45 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:45 pm and 8:11 pm.
  • 428-030 6:45 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:45 pm and 8:11 pm.

Conversation 038-030, April 14, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-030 (accessed October 5, 2026).