Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-078

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on John D. Ehrlichman

Monday, April 16, 1973 · 8:45 PM ET · White House Telephone · 17 sec

ParticipantsWhite House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President)Conversation038-078 on Tape 38StartMonday, April 16, 1973 at 8:45 PMEndMonday, April 16, 1973 at 8:45 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-078 ↗

President Nixon consulted with a White House operator to determine the whereabouts of John D. Ehrlichman. Upon learning that Ehrlichman was unavailable while picking up his son, Nixon instructed the operator to notify him once Ehrlichman returned. This brief exchange highlights the President's ongoing efforts to maintain communication with his inner circle during the unfolding Watergate scandal.

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Hello?
Mr. President...
He's on page two?
No, he's out picking up his son.
He expected back in a few minutes.
Okay, give me a call when I get back.
Thank you.

On April 16, 1973, White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at 8:45 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-078 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-78

Date: April 16, 1973
Time: 8:45 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The White House operator talked with the President.
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                             Conversation No. 38-78 (cont’d)

     John D. Ehrlichman’s location

[There is no Conversation No. 38-79]
  • 038-080 8:45 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:45 pm and 8:58 pm.
  • 038-081 8:45 PM · 21 sec — White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:45 pm and 8:58 pm.
  • 427-014 8:45 PM · 13 sec — White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 8:45 pm.
  • 427-015 8:45 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:45 pm and 8:58 pm.
  • 427-016 8:45 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:45 pm and 8:58 pm.
  • 038-082 8:58 PM · 16 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry E. Petersen talked on the telephone from 8:58 pm to 9:14 pm.
  • 427-017 8:58 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry E. Petersen met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:58 pm to 9:14 pm.
  • 038-083 9:18 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:18 am and 9:19 am.

Conversation 038-078, April 17, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-078 (accessed October 5, 2026).