Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-122

Nixon phone call with Ehrlichman on Charles Colson

Thursday, April 19, 1973 · 5:58 PM–5:59 PM ET · White House Telephone · 21 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.Conversation038-122 on Tape 38StartThursday, April 19, 1973 at 5:58 PMEndThursday, April 19, 1973 at 5:59 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-122 ↗

President Nixon and John Ehrlichman touch base regarding an imminent meeting with Charles Colson. The brief call serves to coordinate schedules as the President prepares to depart the office shortly. Ehrlichman indicates he needs to consult with Colson before reporting back to the President with a status update.

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Hello?
Yes, sir.
What's that mystery?
He's just walking in the door.
I haven't had a chance to talk to him.
He wasn't here when I got over.
So let me ask him and I'll call you right back.
One minute.
I'd like to leave in two or three minutes.
Right.

On April 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 5:58 pm to 5:59 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-122 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-122

Date: April 19, 1973
Time: 5:58 pm - 5:59 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.

[See also Conversation No. 429-19]

     Ehrlichman’s meeting with Charles W. Colson
  • 038-119 5:10 PM · 12 sec — White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at 5:10 pm.
  • 429-018 5:15 PM · 25 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Manolo Sanchez, unknown person(s), and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:15 pm to 5:45 pm.
  • 038-120 5:43 PM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 5:43 pm to 5:45 pm.
  • 038-121 5:45 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:45 pm and 5:48 pm.
  • 429-019 5:58 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:58 pm to 5:59 pm.
  • 429-020 5:59 PM · 34 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:59 pm to 6:00 pm.
  • 038-123 6:00 PM · 3 min — John D. Ehrlichman and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 6:00 pm to 6:03 pm.
  • 429-021 6:00 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:00 pm to 6:03 pm.

Conversation 038-122, April 19, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-122 (accessed October 5, 2026).