Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-143

Nixon, Haldeman & Ehrlichman on Watergate and White House Tapes

Wednesday, April 25, 1973 · 11:06 AM–1:51 PM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsHaldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); White House operator; [Unknown person(s)]; Ehrlichman, John D.; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation038-143 on Tape 38StartWednesday, April 25, 1973 at 11:06 AMEndWednesday, April 25, 1973 at 1:51 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-143 ↗

AI Summary

H. R. Haldeman coordinates with President Nixon, John Ehrlichman, and Stephen Bull regarding the logistical handling and delivery of sensitive materials. The discussion centers on the administrative preparation and movement of tapes, highlighting the internal anxiety surrounding their arrival and custody. Haldeman provides specific instructions to Bull to ensure the materials are secured once they are received.

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Yes, please.
Please.
Moon's office.
Is Bob Lundeman, is he there?
Yes, sir.
One moment.
He's in with Ms. Woods.
Shall I have him come out?
I need to speak to him about that.
About 45 days after the burn.
Yes, sir.
How you doing?
Hasn't arrived yet.
It should be here just moments early.
Okay.
Why don't you just call over and just have Sally come in and tell me Steve's ready.
Okay, fine.
Okay, and I just called them a few minutes ago.
Don't push it.
It's fine.
Just when you get it.
Alright, fine.
When you have it, just have her
No, it's hanging already.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Thank you.

NARA Description

On April 25, 1973, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, unknown person(s), John D. Ehrlichman, President Richard M. Nixon, and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:06 am and 1:51 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-143 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 38-143

Date: April 25, 1973
Time: Unknown between 11:06 am and 1:51 pm
Location: White House Telephone

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman talked with the White House operator.

[See also Conversation No. 430-4G]

     Telephone call to Stephen B. Bull

Haldeman talked with an unknown woman [receptionist] at an unknown time and requested a
call to Bull. The President and John D. Ehrlichman can be heard in the background.

     Bull’s location
           Rose Mary Woods

Haldeman conferred with the President and Ehrlichman at an unknown time.

[Begin conferral]

[See Conversation No. 430-4]

[End conferral]

Haldeman talked with Bull at an unknown time.

     Watergate
          -Tapes
               -Delivery
               -Preparation
               -Instructions
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Also recorded on April 25, 1973

  • 430-001 10:51 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:51 am to 10:58 am.
  • 430-002 10:58 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:58 am and 11:06 am.
  • 430-003 10:58 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:58 am and 11:06 am.
  • 038-138 11:06 AM · 32 sec — John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:06 am and 1:51 pm.
  • 038-139 11:06 AM · 1 min — John D. Ehrlichman and Geoffrey C. Shepard talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:06 am and 1:51 pm.
  • 038-140 11:06 AM · 25 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:06 am and 1:51 pm.
  • 038-141 11:06 AM · 1 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, President Richard M. Nixon, and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:06 am and 1:51 pm.
  • 430-004 11:06 AM · 2 hr 33 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, Geoffrey C. Shepard, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:06 am to 1:55 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 038-143, April 25, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-143 (accessed October 5, 2026).