Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 241 › Conversation 241-005

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David and Aspen Lodge

Friday, February 2, 1973 · 3:43 PM–3:30 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 19 sec

Participants[Unknown person(s)]Conversation241-005 on Tape 241StartFriday, February 2, 1973 at 3:43 PMEndSaturday, February 3, 1973 at 3:30 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 241-005 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417174805 ↗

A 19-second recording. What it contains is described by the archivists' log below; no AI summary is shown for recordings this short.

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Unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 3:43 pm on February 2, 1973 and 3:30 pm on February 3, 1973. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 241-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 241-005

Date: February 2 or February 3, 1973
Time: Unknown between 3:43 pm, February 2 and 3:30 pm, February 3, 1973
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Unknown men met.

       Room arrangement
             -President
             -Furniture
             -View
                    -Beech tree
                    -Town

Unknown men left at an unknown time before 3:30 pm, February 3, 1973.

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And all these have just that same view of that now when you do.
  • 186-001 3:43 PM · 42 sec — Camp David operator, William Hirsch, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-002 3:43 PM · 32 sec — William Hirsch and Charles C. ("Charlie") Sumrell talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-003 3:43 PM · 4 min — Henry A. Kissinger, Camp David operator, Paul ("Stern") Kissinger, and Louis Kissinger talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-004 3:43 PM · 3 min — Henry A. Kissinger, Camp David operator, unknown person(s), and Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-005 3:43 PM · 3 min — Henry A. Kissinger, Camp David operator, and Cmdr. Jonathan T. Howe talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-006 3:43 PM · 20 sec — Charles C. ("Charlie") Sumrell and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-007 3:43 PM · 33 sec — Frank A. Sisco, Camp David operator, and Charles A. Grunden talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-008 3:43 PM · 6 min — Frank A. Sisco, Camp David operator, unknown person(s), and Farrell D. Morlan talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.

Conversation 241-005, February 2, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417174805). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/241-005 (accessed November 15, 2026).