Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 241 › Conversation 241-006

Nixon phone call with Sanchez on Camp David and Interior decoration

Friday, February 2, 1973 · 3:43 PM–3:30 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Sanchez, ManoloConversation241-006 on Tape 241StartFriday, February 2, 1973 at 3:43 PMEndSaturday, February 3, 1973 at 3:30 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 241-006 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon, First Lady Pat Nixon, and Manolo Sanchez gathered at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David to discuss the interior decoration of the residence. The participants reviewed various wall hangings and prints, ultimately deciding which pieces to display in the room and which to move to storage. This informal exchange focused on aesthetic preferences and the logistics of organizing personal items within the lodge.

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Do you need our boots for Mr. Nixon?
Do you want to just take them home?
Do you need those or do you want to just take them home?
Let's take these two things down there, Terry.
Well, I'm going to take one down.
These don't go with the room.
They're ugly.
You know, they're pretty.
Right here, so you can see it.
And then we'll take those two down and put them in that closet of mine in there.
Well, can't you just take the wire off of here?
No.
I think if they got a car, they could put it on right over there.
We could put the other two in here, in that car, but no.
Oh, I see.
Those are just little prints.
They're church prints.
They're church prints.
They're American, but they're...
They're little print prints.
You can find things in white and blue.
Special for white.
Right.
Yeah, we're not in a hurry.
Oh, yeah.

NARA Description

President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 3:43 pm on February 2, 1973 and 3:30 pm on February 3, 1973. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 241-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 241-006

Date: February 2 or February 3, 1973
Time: Unknown between 3:43 pm, February 2 and 3:30 pm, February 3, 1973
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon and Manolo Sanchez.

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during
chronological review 2007-2013]

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[241-006-w001]
[Duration: 1m 3s]

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       Room decoration
             -Package
             -Wall hangings
                    -Prints
                            -Closet
                            -Winston M. Churchill
                            -Marrakesh

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

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The President et. al. left at an unknown time before 3:30 pm, February 3, 1973.

Also recorded on February 2, 1973

  • 186-001 3:43 PM · 42 sec — Camp David operator, William Hirsch, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-002 3:43 PM · 32 sec — William Hirsch and Charles C. ("Charlie") Sumrell talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-003 3:43 PM · 4 min — Henry A. Kissinger, Camp David operator, Paul ("Stern") Kissinger, and Louis Kissinger talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-004 3:43 PM · 3 min — Henry A. Kissinger, Camp David operator, unknown person(s), and Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-005 3:43 PM · 3 min — Henry A. Kissinger, Camp David operator, and Cmdr. Jonathan T. Howe talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-006 3:43 PM · 20 sec — Charles C. ("Charlie") Sumrell and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-007 3:43 PM · 33 sec — Frank A. Sisco, Camp David operator, and Charles A. Grunden talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.
  • 186-008 3:43 PM · 6 min — Frank A. Sisco, Camp David operator, unknown person(s), and Farrell D. Morlan talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 241-006, February 2, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/241-006 (accessed October 1, 2026).