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Conversation 278-052

TapeTape 278StartThursday, September 16, 1971 at 11:15 AMEndThursday, September 16, 1971 at 11:48 AMTape start time02:35:49Tape end time02:48:11ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AudioNARA Description

On September 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:15 am and 11:48 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 278-052 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 278-52

Date: September 16, 1971
Time: Unknown between 11:15 am and 11:48 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Forthcoming vote on draft extension bill
          -The President's deal with F. Edward Hébert

     Schedule
          -October 12 Hebert portrait hanging ceremony

     Military draft bill
           -Time deadline

     Forthcoming events
          -US-Soviet Union summit announcement

     Draft extension bill
           -Volunteer army
                -George P. Shultz’s view
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 278-52 (cont.)


Henry A. Kissinger

Robert C. Tyson
    -Dr. W. Kenneth Riland's information about letter
           -Peter M. Flanigan
                 -Response
                      -Secretary of State [William P. Rogers]

Leonard H. Goldenson
    -Letter about television
          -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
          -[Virginia Sherwood]

Congress
    -Draft extension bill
         -Hébert
         -Shultz
         -Kissinger
         -Clark MacGregor
         -Handling of action on legislation
               -Hébert, John C. Stennis, Leslie C. Arends
    -Meeting with Michael J. Mansfield
         -Mansfield's action
               -MacGregor’s view
    -The President's forthcoming trip to Montana
         -Scheduling
    -George S. McGovern
    -Stennis
    -Handling of unknown foreign policy issue
         -Barry M. Goldwater
         -Forthcoming summits with PRC, Soviet Union
         -MacGregor
               -Handling
         -Options

President’s schedule
     -Alaska

Press conference
      -Planned question
           -Handling
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 278-52 (cont.)


                     -MacGregor
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

I've got a special deal that I'm not going to tell you about today.
It's going to go wrong before I can talk to you.
Don't ask me what it is.
Okay.
Now, I'm going to tell you how to do it.
On October the 12th, I've got to go down to the arms service.
Okay.
That's how I'm going to go back to my home.
Now, the other thing is that on the draft, my guess is that you're not going to have a vote before 4 o'clock.
And I'm confident that I'm going to be in time to debate with them.
And I'm going to be in time to debate with them.
The Russian announcement has to be involved in any way possible.
I said to her, look, I'll work it out.
I'll work it out.
Basically, what you simply say is that, well, they understand the problem, but they don't understand what you have to say.
What you simply have to say is that you have to do it.
Is anybody in there at all?
I mean, the jargon started to go all out of the song here in our home.
It was stuck here all over.
And the second part was work, which isn't pretty candid.
Oh, hell no.
Hell no.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, he did phone work tomorrow.
Yeah, he did.
No, no, no.
And he didn't want to leave.
Okay.
Well, we have got to, well, yes, yes, that's fine.
It requires us to have everyone with us now.
Thank you.
Oh, yeah. .
Let's go.
Oh, could I?
Let's see.
Oh, one thing.
I made a quick note.
Ronald told me, and this is probably plenty of chopper.
Remember, I appointed Bob Tyson to be an ambassador on some sort of television or something.
So, just help planning and handling.
put it on the back of
Thank you.
Thank you.
The key thing is, Bob, is that you can't be decided down here by Schultz, Gisbert, etc.
It's great, but it's got to be decided by the three people who are ready to step in.
I don't know if you do have a motion.
What does the, uh, the moderator think, uh, is he, uh, is he, uh, is he, uh, is he, uh, is he, uh, is he, uh, is he,
We've still got to go through with that trip.
I'm glad you got out of it.
I promise.
And after that, I can be cool with something like making him feel good.
He's like, we're going to up and down.
We're going to up and down the trail.
He does say good things to me.
I don't know about his goddamn record.
He's a very clever lady.
I don't know about that.
He says, oh, I'm going to travel abroad.
He's going to take the risk.
I don't know what he's talking about.
Let's get it out on a massive basis.
But at the highest, in other words, you get somebody, not just a number of people, but somebody who's that kind of gold runner or somebody who's cracking on, starting a point of college.
It's very important to do what they're doing, all out there.
That's what they're playing on.
They're playing on .
I always hope, I hope that you shake the greater up a little bit so that he realizes that we're, but we're, but we're out here.
We've got to help these, we've got to help John.
We've got to help him.
We've got to help him.
We've got to help him.
We've got to help him.
Well, probably not as hard as .
But if we don't play the same way, it's not a player.
It's something else.
I mean, I don't know that you can cancel the last one.
Yeah, but you can say it can be very difficult.
Well, no, I can't have somebody .
Better lately.
Traveling again.
So that they can question me, I want somebody to plant a question at the press conference on it.
Maybe I don't put it quite clear.
Exactly.
I want somebody in there.
You know, one of those guys, and this is one time we used to plant a question, and it has been reported.
Now, can you do that?
Steve McGregor, you've got to plant a question.
Oh, come on.
I have a question here.
The fact that it's reported that you said that, how do you comment that you have to make a very big step that you cannot do?
We have a series of problems that we've got to get credit for.
Correct.
Bye.
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