On June 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Charles W. Colson, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:35 pm to 4:40 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 344-033 of the White House Tapes.
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Manola, would you tell Mr. Coulson and Cullen to come over?
Yes, sir.
Manola, also would you bring over to me the...
The folder, have them send over the folder that's on my desk for the affair tonight.
Just have the call people.
You don't need to go.
Just the folder that's on my desk for tonight.
Yes, sir.
If the new pictures are all right.
Yeah, I don't know if they're...
But they've got one there.
Yeah.
We haven't probably heard of a line.
You need to use a social aid or client.
Clients always do it.
Social aid can't do it if it doesn't.
With this many people, I just haven't had the time to.
The line will be too long.
to go through two long situations.
They have got to be, on the other hand, described as to where the hell they're from, you see.
God put Ralph Rennie on it.
Jesus Christ, I'm glad I told you to check these things with the local, but what about the home?
They're okay.
Well, one of the very, very successful, I'd just like to know, that was unbelievable.
I would, I'd say to have a chance to read that.
Go ahead.
I really don't know.
He's bad.
I mean, I don't mean just a little bad.
He's very bad.
Ralph Rennick, he's a big, he's a big audience member.
He's a CBS qualification as they had to be.
either technically or at the very least completely neutral.
And that was the only event that ever happened.
I said, ask the local people.
I said, ask the local people.
We ran through a couple of houses.
Well, I know you can't, but I don't expect you to be forced.
You've got to watch it.
I'm afraid there's going to be too many more like that.
I'm not going to say a word.
I apparently didn't get across what I was trying to get at.
I wanted to reveal the potential on our side.
I wouldn't, for example, knowing even New York, I wouldn't have paid Preston.
I know Preston.
He's not going to, he's going to pick the shit out of us.
You know Preston?
New York?
Well, I mean, it's obvious the curve got extinguished.
I don't see something's happening here with Preston.
I don't think he did.
What do they do?
Just put it on the list and see whether they had big lists of how they actually sued them.
I don't know.
No?
Well, that was one.
We had, it was a three-week effort on this president to go home to the country to find the people who had influence up to date and who were abused.
Our test was that they'd be reasonably sympathetic, not necessarily pro, but at least accept police guys that we could work with.
with the influence by some stroking he had with him.
He thinks we took a close look at him.
I'm sure.
I'll wait here.
For what?
For a body check, of course.
Probably the other, the word.
I'd rather have a client who will button it up a little bit.
I mean, it's better to have somebody that knows the point rather than a tenant.
See, the social aid, they don't know how to do that.
They were going to say, this is Mr. Joe Blow.
I don't know these people.
I don't know these people.
I don't know these people.
This is not done.
This is not done.
This is not done.
This is not done.
They have no remarks.
They have a mic set up so they don't hear anything.
Audit.
They're going to have to go to the Eastern.
They're going to have to go to Peru.
When I see that kind of a, you have a big program, I don't think it's too necessary, but with the editors, I don't think they've been advertising or marketing advertising or something like that.
It was just advertising reception.
But yeah, it's a briefing and a reception.
Here, a briefing and a reception.
He wasn't there, but he helped us to be wonderful.
Check.
Let's go.
This is for the...
It's a big audience.
Let me have you here.
Check with right on that.
Powerful.
Powerful.
Powerful.
Good job.
Good job.
He was, I'm sorry, he was checked and came back definitely Democratic.
His brother is in the Democratic State Assembly.
Yeah.
Attends to be local vice president of the station, .
Correct.
He's been very, very .
Correct.
Oh, unbelievable.
Yeah.
So we did check him out.
But I told you, liberal is a small.
We went through 734 people who had called in on the delivery.
We had about 500.
At least we have a pretty good block on most of them.
That's a pretty good idea.
But we put people who were just calling out to the whole group.
One of the things we often do is we've got so many people in.
It's better to have two or three that have total responsibility than to have a dozen.
They all have that responsibility.
Well, you've got Scali and Sapphire and all over.
We're going to push the end of the fuse.
These are people who are advised to do things because they're healers and not people who are prepared.
Especially in an election year, it's a lot of ground to cover.
It sure is.
After the mining decision, they were all useful.
That's when we discovered we had a weakness, actually.
We got the list of people that we could call around the country, but we didn't do that.
We discovered we had about a hundred teachers, professors, and teachers in a couple of other places.
And we actually now probably have two or three hundred of those pros, but at least we know the truth.
That's great.
And we know where they are.
See, Bob, this has been always the weakness that I've been hit on in the crime.
Client repeats the same damn people all the time.
Right?
You go to the client office, it ain't there.
It's not there.
So this is an exercise in the word why I didn't do that.
I just thought it was fun.
Check.
One of the difficulties in any of these main operations, you know, we now have...
Oh, so many of those people on the key list.
One of the great things is you have to rely on other people too.
I know.
I'll tell you what you need.
I'll tell you what you need each day.
You need a friend who, for whatever you're supposed to do, ain't tough.
They call and say, oh, Jesus, don't have that guy.
He has some of that.
No.
In Miami, if there's any questions that were posed to him, he was perfectly, perfectly going to be smart.
You never know to be smart.
He knows all these countries.
He knows more than they know about themselves.
You call him up and say, maybe in Chicago we would call Flintstones Cinema.
They'd register.
They'd say, not they.
We should be happy to come.
He'd say, well, I would have come, but I wouldn't have that other company.
And that's what you need.
That's what I was expecting from this kind of a check dress.
It was done the way you would expect.
At least it was supplemented.
That's the main thing.
That's good.
Supplemented.
We ended up with 734.
I never seemed to think it was that well.
Even if you take a guy who's an athlete and you bring him in here, he never has a single name.
He gets the first name.
And then a lot of what we wanted couldn't come.
Well, sure, because they had to read the show.
They actually got shows.
I don't feel like you pull out a lot of those things.
I'm glad that part of it we kind of get it.
We covered a lot of ground.
And now we're covering a lot of people around.
And we're one of the poorest people, the poorest people that I've signed to.
So it's not a good thing.
It's not a good thing on the ground.
It's pretty bad on the ground.
You know, I wanted to talk to you about a very interesting talk with Billy Graham.
He talked to me just now.
And it may be that what he says will be an interesting...
...probably more about Bob... ...all about internet... ...technology... ...technology... ...technology... ...technology...
They didn't say what.
They didn't say what.
They created that mystery.
Maybe she was complaining that...
Especially, well, the president has a history of bottoming off.
Even if he doesn't, I told him I cut him off for that.
It's undoubtedly true, undoubtedly true that they have made 500, I don't know, fighters and the kind of stuff that a clever campaign organization just hides.
They caught up with the clever campaign organizations.
You can't play choppers games nowadays.
But none of us feel like it's a good story here.
I don't have any degree of question.
The problem is, that was done in the back, and they struck down.
They found it.
And there's no way you can not report it.
It goes into the income tax stuff and everything else.
All we need to do is lie about some squabble pay and find ourselves...
Cut it.
It's very, very different right now than it was then.
There's ways in which you can exploit the advantages of your comments.
This is day and day out.
Yeah, and day out is day out.
But you can't really say any one thing has a very decisive effect.
Well, I chose to run the NDA because it was so, you know, they're going to get it in society.
something that even I made a people in the federal parks in the summer time.
And every one of them this summer will be handed.
This is the main parks that people go to here.
Talks about the tremendous progress the president makes in the legacy of the parks.
The people going to the parks care about the parks.
Everyone gets handed that one.
That's good.
It's all the stuff that used to frustrate the Jesus out of us.
Yeah, we don't do it.
No, we're putting, there's a mailer in every social security number on this one that quotes your message on the project which is getting .
to every social security person to pay for it.
The bank clean and mailer thing, it only goes to the people who are bad at it.
We sent out seven and a half million dollars in the year 50 of the anniversary statement on Amherst today.
We couldn't do those in 1968.
And if you had told a guy like J.O.T.
in 1968 just to come back to that example, he wouldn't have done it for us, but he would be more happy to speak to us.
The television in the United States is picking up that telephone message right now.
Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, it's like we're going to get caught eventually with the way I'm playing.
Welfare Department, I think, is sharing.
Yes, it's really kind of amazing.
That's nice.
No, I have never, I have never said no to anybody except to Bill Schultz, but the United Welfare Department is losing.
And so therefore, we're going to stay right where we are.
Some of the things we're
And they said, I really don't have to tell you.
You can still lose everything.
The law is going to screw it up.
The Lord has told Buchanan this morning that he's with us all the way in Tennessee.
Well, he's about to announce it in the early hours of the city.
All right, well, listen to me.
He says that your veterans, they said, will be able to prevent what they were going through.
Who says this?
Kevin Phillips.
He's got an article coming in here and there.
My veterans came to see me.
That was in 1939.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think you could base a campaign.
Well, I'll tell you what, I get my stuff.
Maybe Chuck and I get, I'm basing my own reactions too much on that.
And I do have to read now the number of elections, a quick survey.
And maybe this doesn't seem true, and it shouldn't, because it is something that should bend over in other ways.
It should bend over and see how much it does, the scale stuff.
Are you going to talk to these people or not?
I'm just trying to greet them and cross them off to the consignor places because there's nothing to say to them.
They don't have anything to do with it.
I'm sorry.
He was telling me that he'd be considering the National Association of Candidates.