Nixon, Haldeman & Colson on White House media relations

3:38:03Manola, would you tell Mr. Coulson and Cullen to come over?
3:38:17Yes, sir.
3:38:18Manola, also would you bring over to me the...
3:38:27The folder, have them send over the folder that's on my desk for the affair tonight.
3:38:32Just have the call people.
3:38:34You don't need to go.
3:38:36Just the folder that's on my desk for tonight.
3:38:40Yes, sir.
3:39:42If the new pictures are all right.
3:39:45Yeah, I don't know if they're...
3:39:49But they've got one there.
3:39:51Yeah.
3:40:02We haven't probably heard of a line.
3:40:09You need to use a social aid or client.
3:40:14Clients always do it.
3:40:15Social aid can't do it if it doesn't.
3:40:22With this many people, I just haven't had the time to.
3:40:30The line will be too long.
3:40:33to go through two long situations.
3:40:38They have got to be, on the other hand, described as to where the hell they're from, you see.
3:40:54God put Ralph Rennie on it.
3:40:59Jesus Christ, I'm glad I told you to check these things with the local, but what about the home?
3:41:10They're okay.
3:41:10Well, one of the very, very successful, I'd just like to know, that was unbelievable.
3:41:15I would, I'd say to have a chance to read that.
3:41:19Go ahead.
3:41:23I really don't know.
3:41:24He's bad.
3:41:25I mean, I don't mean just a little bad.
3:41:26He's very bad.
3:41:27Ralph Rennick, he's a big, he's a big audience member.
3:41:31He's a CBS qualification as they had to be.
3:41:34either technically or at the very least completely neutral.
3:41:40And that was the only event that ever happened.
3:41:43I said, ask the local people.
3:41:47I said, ask the local people.
3:41:56We ran through a couple of houses.
3:41:58Well, I know you can't, but I don't expect you to be forced.
3:42:02You've got to watch it.
3:42:05I'm afraid there's going to be too many more like that.
3:42:11I'm not going to say a word.
3:42:12I apparently didn't get across what I was trying to get at.
3:42:19I wanted to reveal the potential on our side.
3:42:25I wouldn't, for example, knowing even New York, I wouldn't have paid Preston.
3:42:28I know Preston.
3:42:28He's not going to, he's going to pick the shit out of us.
3:42:35You know Preston?
3:42:37New York?
3:42:39Well, I mean, it's obvious the curve got extinguished.
3:42:46I don't see something's happening here with Preston.
3:42:50I don't think he did.
3:42:56What do they do?
3:42:57Just put it on the list and see whether they had big lists of how they actually sued them.
3:43:01I don't know.
3:43:02No?
3:43:02Well, that was one.
3:43:03We had, it was a three-week effort on this president to go home to the country to find the people who had influence up to date and who were abused.
3:43:14Our test was that they'd be reasonably sympathetic, not necessarily pro, but at least accept police guys that we could work with.
3:43:22with the influence by some stroking he had with him.
3:43:25He thinks we took a close look at him.
3:43:27I'm sure.
3:43:27I'll wait here.
3:43:28For what?
3:43:28For a body check, of course.
3:43:39Probably the other, the word.
3:44:19I'd rather have a client who will button it up a little bit.
3:44:29I mean, it's better to have somebody that knows the point rather than a tenant.
3:44:43See, the social aid, they don't know how to do that.
3:44:46They were going to say, this is Mr. Joe Blow.
3:44:49I don't know these people.
3:45:24This is not done.
3:45:55They have no remarks.
3:45:57They have a mic set up so they don't hear anything.
3:46:05Audit.
3:46:06They're going to have to go to the Eastern.
3:46:17They're going to have to go to Peru.
3:46:22When I see that kind of a, you have a big program, I don't think it's too necessary, but with the editors, I don't think they've been advertising or marketing advertising or something like that.
3:46:41It was just advertising reception.
3:46:43But yeah, it's a briefing and a reception.
3:46:46Here, a briefing and a reception.
3:46:52He wasn't there, but he helped us to be wonderful.
3:46:58Check.
3:46:59Let's go.
3:47:01This is for the...
3:47:01It's a big audience.
3:47:02Let me have you here.
3:47:03Check with right on that.
3:47:05Powerful.
3:47:06Powerful.
3:47:11Powerful.
3:47:14Good job.
3:47:18Good job.
3:47:21He was, I'm sorry, he was checked and came back definitely Democratic.
3:47:25His brother is in the Democratic State Assembly.
3:47:32Yeah.
3:47:32Attends to be local vice president of the station, .
3:47:39Correct.
3:47:39He's been very, very .
3:47:41Correct.
3:47:41Oh, unbelievable.
3:47:42Yeah.
3:47:44So we did check him out.
3:47:46But I told you, liberal is a small.
3:47:49We went through 734 people who had called in on the delivery.
3:47:52We had about 500.
3:47:56At least we have a pretty good block on most of them.
3:48:04That's a pretty good idea.
3:48:06But we put people who were just calling out to the whole group.
3:48:10One of the things we often do is we've got so many people in.
3:48:28It's better to have two or three that have total responsibility than to have a dozen.
3:48:37They all have that responsibility.
3:48:50Well, you've got Scali and Sapphire and all over.
3:48:54We're going to push the end of the fuse.
3:48:56These are people who are advised to do things because they're healers and not people who are prepared.
3:49:05Especially in an election year, it's a lot of ground to cover.
3:49:13It sure is.
3:49:14After the mining decision, they were all useful.
3:49:18That's when we discovered we had a weakness, actually.
3:49:22We got the list of people that we could call around the country, but we didn't do that.
3:49:26We discovered we had about a hundred teachers, professors, and teachers in a couple of other places.
3:49:33And we actually now probably have two or three hundred of those pros, but at least we know the truth.
3:49:40That's great.
3:49:41And we know where they are.
3:49:43See, Bob, this has been always the weakness that I've been hit on in the crime.
3:49:48Client repeats the same damn people all the time.
3:49:52Right?
3:49:53You go to the client office, it ain't there.
3:49:54It's not there.
3:49:55So this is an exercise in the word why I didn't do that.
3:50:00I just thought it was fun.
3:50:02Check.
3:50:02One of the difficulties in any of these main operations, you know, we now have...
3:50:13Oh, so many of those people on the key list.
3:50:16One of the great things is you have to rely on other people too.
3:50:21I know.
3:50:21I'll tell you what you need.
3:50:22I'll tell you what you need each day.
3:50:23You need a friend who, for whatever you're supposed to do, ain't tough.
3:50:32They call and say, oh, Jesus, don't have that guy.
3:50:34He has some of that.
3:50:36No.
3:50:37In Miami, if there's any questions that were posed to him, he was perfectly, perfectly going to be smart.
3:50:48You never know to be smart.
3:50:48He knows all these countries.
3:50:50He knows more than they know about themselves.
3:50:52You call him up and say, maybe in Chicago we would call Flintstones Cinema.
3:50:55They'd register.
3:50:55They'd say, not they.
3:50:56We should be happy to come.
3:50:57He'd say, well, I would have come, but I wouldn't have that other company.
3:51:01And that's what you need.
3:51:04That's what I was expecting from this kind of a check dress.
3:51:10It was done the way you would expect.
3:51:14At least it was supplemented.
3:51:17That's the main thing.
3:51:18That's good.
3:51:20Supplemented.
3:51:21We ended up with 734.
3:51:24I never seemed to think it was that well.
3:51:32Even if you take a guy who's an athlete and you bring him in here, he never has a single name.
3:51:36He gets the first name.
3:51:40And then a lot of what we wanted couldn't come.
3:51:43Well, sure, because they had to read the show.
3:51:44They actually got shows.
3:51:45I don't feel like you pull out a lot of those things.
3:51:49I'm glad that part of it we kind of get it.
3:51:52We covered a lot of ground.
3:51:55And now we're covering a lot of people around.
3:51:56And we're one of the poorest people, the poorest people that I've signed to.
3:52:00So it's not a good thing.
3:52:02It's not a good thing on the ground.
3:52:04It's pretty bad on the ground.
3:52:13You know, I wanted to talk to you about a very interesting talk with Billy Graham.
3:52:26He talked to me just now.
3:52:30And it may be that what he says will be an interesting...
3:52:36...probably more about Bob... ...all about internet... ...technology... ...technology... ...technology... ...technology...
3:53:07They didn't say what.
3:53:12They didn't say what.
3:53:14They created that mystery.
3:53:18Maybe she was complaining that...
3:53:34Especially, well, the president has a history of bottoming off.
3:53:38Even if he doesn't, I told him I cut him off for that.
3:59:25It's undoubtedly true, undoubtedly true that they have made 500, I don't know, fighters and the kind of stuff that a clever campaign organization just hides.
3:59:41They caught up with the clever campaign organizations.
3:59:44You can't play choppers games nowadays.
3:59:48But none of us feel like it's a good story here.
3:59:51I don't have any degree of question.
3:59:53The problem is, that was done in the back, and they struck down.
3:59:57They found it.
3:59:57And there's no way you can not report it.
4:00:00It goes into the income tax stuff and everything else.
4:00:04All we need to do is lie about some squabble pay and find ourselves...
4:00:10Cut it.
4:13:22It's very, very different right now than it was then.
4:13:31There's ways in which you can exploit the advantages of your comments.
4:13:41This is day and day out.
4:13:43Yeah, and day out is day out.
4:13:44But you can't really say any one thing has a very decisive effect.
4:13:49Well, I chose to run the NDA because it was so, you know, they're going to get it in society.
4:13:59something that even I made a people in the federal parks in the summer time.
4:14:02And every one of them this summer will be handed.
4:14:05This is the main parks that people go to here.
4:14:08Talks about the tremendous progress the president makes in the legacy of the parks.
4:14:15The people going to the parks care about the parks.
4:14:18Everyone gets handed that one.
4:14:20That's good.
4:14:22It's all the stuff that used to frustrate the Jesus out of us.
4:14:25Yeah, we don't do it.
4:14:26No, we're putting, there's a mailer in every social security number on this one that quotes your message on the project which is getting .
4:14:40to every social security person to pay for it.
4:14:42The bank clean and mailer thing, it only goes to the people who are bad at it.
4:14:47We sent out seven and a half million dollars in the year 50 of the anniversary statement on Amherst today.
4:15:00We couldn't do those in 1968.
4:15:02And if you had told a guy like J.O.T.
4:15:05in 1968 just to come back to that example, he wouldn't have done it for us, but he would be more happy to speak to us.
4:15:12The television in the United States is picking up that telephone message right now.
4:23:50Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, it's like we're going to get caught eventually with the way I'm playing.
4:23:56Welfare Department, I think, is sharing.
4:23:57Yes, it's really kind of amazing.
4:23:59That's nice.
4:24:03No, I have never, I have never said no to anybody except to Bill Schultz, but the United Welfare Department is losing.
4:24:11And so therefore, we're going to stay right where we are.
4:24:17Some of the things we're
4:24:20And they said, I really don't have to tell you.
4:24:21You can still lose everything.
4:24:22The law is going to screw it up.
4:24:23The Lord has told Buchanan this morning that he's with us all the way in Tennessee.
4:24:26Well, he's about to announce it in the early hours of the city.
4:24:28All right, well, listen to me.
4:24:31He says that your veterans, they said, will be able to prevent what they were going through.
4:24:40Who says this?
4:24:41Kevin Phillips.
4:24:41He's got an article coming in here and there.
4:24:46My veterans came to see me.
4:24:51That was in 1939.
4:24:54I don't think so.
4:25:08I don't think you could base a campaign.
4:25:10Well, I'll tell you what, I get my stuff.
4:25:11Maybe Chuck and I get, I'm basing my own reactions too much on that.
4:25:13And I do have to read now the number of elections, a quick survey.
4:25:20And maybe this doesn't seem true, and it shouldn't, because it is something that should bend over in other ways.
4:25:30It should bend over and see how much it does, the scale stuff.
4:30:39Are you going to talk to these people or not?
4:30:46I'm just trying to greet them and cross them off to the consignor places because there's nothing to say to them.
4:30:51They don't have anything to do with it.
4:30:55I'm sorry.
4:30:56He was telling me that he'd be considering the National Association of Candidates.

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