Nixon, Haldeman & Colson on White House media relations

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if the new pictures are all right.

But they've got one there.

If we haven't, they're probably here other than the line.

We need to use a social aid or client.

Clients let us do it.

But the social aid can't do it if he doesn't.

With this many people, Bob, I just haven't had the time.

The line will be too long.

to go through two long situations.

They have got to be, on the other hand, described as to where the hell they're from, you see.

You see what I mean?

Yeah.

God put God where he wanted him.

That's what he said.

Jesus Christ, I mean, I told you to check these things with the local, but what about the home?

Yeah, okay.

Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well,

I really don't know.

He's bad.

I mean, I don't mean just a little bad.

He's very bad.

Ralph Rennick, he's a big, he's a big audience member.

The CBS qualification was they had to be either friendly or at the very least completely neutral.

I said, ask the local people.

Well, I know you can't, but I don't expect it to be for us, but you've got to watch it.

First, I'm afraid there's going to be too many more like that.

I apparently didn't get across what I was trying to get.

I wanted to reveal things to them.

I wanted to put tension on our side.

I wouldn't, for example, knowing him in New York, I wouldn't have had to pay the pressman on him.

I know the pressman.

He's not coming.

He's going to kick the shit out of us.

He'll do it in 68.

You know the pressman?

New York?

I don't think so.

Well, I mean, it's obvious the curve got extinguished in this one.

I don't see something's happening here.

I don't think he did.

What do they do?

Just go down the list and see what they had.

Big list of how they actually sued him.

I don't know.

No?

Well, that was one.

We had a, it was a three-week effort on this one.

It was a two-day act.

It was all in the country design.

for people who had influence up to date and who weren't used to it.

Our test was that they'd be reasonably sympathetic to it, not necessarily pro, but at least we had police guys that we could work with who would be influenced by some stroking that we had to do.

I think we took a close look at it.

I'm not sure.

I'll leave it up to you.

I just kind of raised a point of check with one who said, you raised... Well, I remember I told Kevin, this guy was just Bill Byer.

No, no, not Bill Byer.

Bill Byer's one.

And the radio guy's the other.

Oh, of course.

Those are the only two friends we got on in.

There ain't no more.

None.

No more at all.

I know.

There ain't.

There's five of them.

And I didn't say that.

Five?

There's kind of a hell of a lot going on.

Probably the other, the worst.

I'd rather have a client who will button it up a little bit.

I mean, it's better to have somebody that knows the point of the tenant.

See, the social aid, they don't know how to do that.

They would just say, this is Mr. Joe Blow.

I don't know these people.

All right.

They have no remarks.

They have a mic set up so they don't hear anything.

Audit.

We're going to have to go to the Eastern and make remarks and give them a little achievement.

Sometimes if you don't, you audit them.

When I see that kind of a, you have a big program, I don't think it's a necessary number, but the editors on here, they haven't been, or they've been advertising, or marketing advertising, or something like that, or whatever they say, because it was just advertising reception.

But yeah, it's a briefing and a reception.

Here, a briefing over here.

It's a big audience.

Let me have you here check with right on that.

Powerful, powerful.

Good job.

He was, I'm sorry, he was checked and came back definitely Democratic.

His brother is in the Democratic State Senate.

Yeah.

Tends to be the local vice president of the station, Chris McGrath.

He's a former CBS member.

Correct.

He's been very, very nice.

Right.

Oh, an unbelievable value.

Earthquake, because of that, I didn't spend a great deal of time.

Yeah.

So we did check it out.

But I know it's a liberal thing, because that's all.

That's a pretty good idea.

What if we put people who are just calling us?

One of the things we often do is we've got so many people in.

But it's better to have two or three that have total responsibility than to have a dozen or ten people on this list.

They all have to have responsibilities.

But, you know, it's not real business.

It's one number of people.

You've got Scali and Sapphire and...

Although, we haven't touched the end of it.

It was purely on the people who are in particular.

These are people who are invited to the thing because they're healers and not people who are in the party.

So I think it's a good thing to get.

Especially in an election year, it's a lot of ground to cover.

It sure is.

After the mining decision, they were all useful.

That's when we discovered we had a weakness, actually.

We've got the list of people that we could call around the country, but we can't do that.

I discovered we have about 100 of these professors, and we should have a global appointment.

That's right.

And we actually now probably have two or three hundred of those pros, at least we know the pros.

That's great.

And we know where they are.

See, Bob, this has been always the weakness that I've been hit on in the class.

The client repeats the same damn people all the time, right?

We go to the client and say, it ain't there, it's not there.

So this is an exercise, and worthwhile.

I just thought it was fun.

Check.

One of the difficulties in any of these main operations,

So when Rick does, people are on key lists.

And one of the great key lists is that you have to rely on other people to plan out.

I'll tell you what you need.

I'll tell you what you need in each state.

You need a friend who is politically sophisticated, ain't tough.

They can call and say, oh, Jesus, don't have that guy.

Yes, I have that guy.

No.

In Miami, if there's any questions that are proposed to him, he's perfectly, perfectly going to be smart.

He may never know it, but he's smart.

He knows all these factories.

He knows more than they know about themselves.

You call him up and say, maybe in Chicago we would call Flintstones Cinema.

They'd register.

They'd say, now Dave, what should we have in Chicago?

And he'd say, well, I would have, I would have a company.

I wouldn't have another company.

And that's what you need.

That's what I was expecting from this kind of a check address, and saying, heard what I heard, what you have, and here's your bulletin.

It was done the way you would expect, not by afternoon.

Right.

At least it was supplemented.

That's the main thing.

That's good.

Supplemented.

There's checks that's doing useless, and then squeezed back in.

We ended up with 734.

I never seemed to think it was that well.

Even if you take a guy who's an athlete and you bring him in here, he never actually thinks about anything.

And then a lot of what we wanted couldn't come from somewhere.

Well, sure, because they had to read the show.

They actually got shows, and they don't feel they should pull it out and all that sort of stuff.

I'm glad to hear that.

They were singing to, you know, so they just, you know, they were very, really, really inspired.

You know, the whole, you know, I wanted to talk to you about a very interesting talk with Billy Graham.

He talked to me just now.

And it may be, it may be that what he says will be an interesting thing.

I don't know.

Yeah.

They didn't say what.

They didn't say what, but they created that mystery with me.

Maybe she was complaining that...

Well, he has a history of popping off.

Even if he doesn't, I told him I'd cut him off for that.

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Undoubtedly true that they have made 500, I don't know, fighters and that kind of stuff.

That a clever campaign organization just hides.

They've caught up with the clever campaign organizations.

You can't play choppers games nowadays.

But none of us feel like it's a good story here.

I don't have any degree of question.

The problem is that was done in the back and it struck down.

They've found it.

And there's no way you can not report it.

It goes into the income tax stuff and everything else.

All we need to do is lie about some squabble pay and find ourselves

Right up there.

It's very right there, right now.

It's the ways in which you can exploit the managers of your companies.

This is day and day out.

Yeah, and day out still.

But you can't really say any one thing has a very decisive effect, or punitive effect.

This is kind of what I've told us for many days.

This is a sort of thing that, again, this is something that Peter and I made, even though I made the people who led the federal parks and reviewed some of them.

And every one of them in this summer will be handed this with his name for us to be able to go to you here.

Talks about the tremendous progress the president makes in the legacy of the parks.

The people who own the parks care about the parks.

Everyone gets handed that one.

That's good.

It's all the stuff that used to frustrate the Jesus out of us.

Yeah, but are we doing it?

No, we're putting, there's a mailer in every social security number on this one that quotes your message on the Project 5, which is getting through the state of the city.

It's a lot of these programs that will get you your name and we'll let you know when the time is right.

to every social security person to pay for it.

Well, this is the Van Queen and Maynard thing that only moves to the people who are bad at it.

We sent out seven and a half million members in the year 50 of the Anniversary Statement on Amnesty State.

But these things, we couldn't do those in 1968.

And if you would call that

A guy like Joe T. in 1968, just to come back to that example, he didn't have press, but he would be more happy to speak.

The colors in the United States, picking up that color, that's just private.

Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, it's like we're going to get caught eventually in the way I'm playing.

Welfare Department, right?

Yes, it's really kind of amazing.

That's nice.

No, I have never, I have never said no to anybody or said to any of the children that the United Welfare Department is losing.

And so therefore, we're going to stay right where we are.

Some of the things we're

And that's what I really don't have to tell you.

You can still leave the government.

The law is going to screw it up.

I thought you told Buchanan this morning that he was with us all the way in Tennessee.

Well, he's about to go out to the New York Times article.

He says that your veterans didn't sit for a day or two.

Who says this?

Kevin Phillips.

He's got an article going on here and now.

You might have better interest him to bring it up.

No, I don't think so.

I don't think so.

Thank God.

Nobody reads the goddamn thing except the people that are against us, so that's all right.

I think those who read it for us don't pay attention to it.

Of course.

I don't think you could base a campaign... Well, I'll tell you what, I get my stuff.

Maybe Chuck and I get...

I'm basing my own reactions too much on them.

And I do have to read now, from now until the election, a quick survey.

And maybe this doesn't seem too... And it shouldn't, because it is something that should bend over in other ways.

It should bend over and see how much it does, the scale stuff.

Do you want to talk to these people or not?

I'd better tell them not to come down here.

I'm just trying to greet them and then cross around to the consignor's place and see if there's an executive that doesn't have anything to do with it.

I'm sorry.

He was telling me that he'd be considering the National Association of Candidates.

Yeah.

And he said he hasn't met one yet, and so, by the way, your resolution supporting CAST,

by voicemail between the centers.

We don't have a private .

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