Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 391 › Conversation 391-025

Nixon & Bull on Council on Environmental Quality and Mstislav Keldysh

Friday, November 3, 1972 · 9:24 AM–9:38 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation391-025 on Tape 391StartFriday, November 3, 1972 at 9:24 AMEndFriday, November 3, 1972 at 9:38 AMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 391-025 ↗

President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull reviewed the President's upcoming schedule, specifically focusing on logistics for meetings with the Council on Environmental Quality and the Soviet Academy of Sciences. The discussion centered on coordinating necessary photograph opportunities, including sessions with Beatrice Willard and Dixie Lee Ray. They also briefly touched upon the status of the President's recent telephone correspondence, including a call with Senator Clifford P. Case.

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What is the situation?
You're going to take, you know, you're going to take, you're going to take my business.
You're going to pitch and say you've got your designs.
And I'm going to take your property.
Well, that's what I actually need.
I said, well, that's what I have.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's what I have.
That's the woman that I find.
That's why I'm going to help put that on.
I've already had a picture of her.
All right, I'll take the picture of her.
I can't remember the woman, the woman from Washington that I know.
I'm not sure what the situation is.
What is the goddamn thing supposed to be?
It's supposed to be a press photo of the security members.
And that's just very weird.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yes.

On November 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:24 am and 9:38 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 391-025 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 391-25

Date: November 3, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:24 am and 9:38 am
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                           Conversation No. 391-25 (cont’d)

Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President’s telephone calls
            -Recent conversation with Clifford P. Case

       The President’s schedule
            -Meeting with Mistislav V. Keldysh of Soviet Academy of Sciences
            -Meeting with Council on Environmental Quality [CEQ]
                  -[Beatrice (“Bettie”) Willard]
                         -Photograph opportunity
                               -[Dixie Lee Ray] of Washington State
                  -Photograph opportunity
                         -Willard and [John Busterude]
            -[Louis Tullio] of Erie, Pennsylvania
            -The President’s telephone calls
            -November 4, 1972
            -The President’s telephone calls

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:38 am.
  • 032-162 9:12 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Edward W. Brooke talked on the telephone from 9:12 am to 9:16 am.
  • 391-023 9:12 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Edward W. Brooke met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:12 am to 9:16 am.
  • 032-163 9:22 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Clifford P. Case talked on the telephone from 9:22 am to 9:24 am.
  • 391-024 9:22 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Clifford P. Case met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:22 am to 9:24 am.
  • 032-164 9:38 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Mark O. Hatfield, and Mrs. Mark O. Hatfield talked on the telephone from 9:38 am to 9:42 am.
  • 391-026 9:38 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Mark O. Hatfield, and Mrs. Mark O. Hatfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:38 am to 9:42 am.
  • 032-165 9:42 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:42 am and 9:44 am.
  • 391-027 9:42 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:42 am and 9:44 am.

Conversation 391-025, November 3, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/391-025 (accessed September 28, 2026).