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Nixon & Timmons on Congressional relations and Gerald Ford

Tuesday, June 5, 1973 · 5:27 PM–5:29 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Timmons, William E.Conversation441-022 on Tape 441StartTuesday, June 5, 1973 at 5:27 PMEndTuesday, June 5, 1973 at 5:29 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 441-022 ↗

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President Nixon met with William E. Timmons to discuss legislative strategy and the President's ongoing outreach to Republican leadership, specifically referencing recent interactions with Gerald Ford. Nixon expressed appreciation for the efforts of Timmons and his staff in managing congressional relations despite political pressures. The conversation served primarily as an informal morale boost and a reaffirmation of the administration's coordinated efforts on Capitol Hill.

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Yeah.
Hello.
I just talked to Jerry Ford.
He said that he was very pleased that I was leaving this morning.
And he told me that it was prostrate after the view that, uh, that he had voted for the Senate.
Actually, what I was trying to do, though, was sort of make it appear that you and all the other guys, I mean, all of you, you know, you were moving around there.
In fact, I know that every paper that comes in, if there wasn't a thing they mentioned, you haven't done it.
Not one thing.
Well, but to know, Bill, that's what they want to know.
And so don't you worry about a waste of my time, but I just wanted you to be sure that you and Carlos are interested.
I was perfectly aware of that.
I had to leave a little bit.
You want to leave?
I don't.
You, it's a shame.
It's a shame.
Yeah.
Well, don't you worry about that.
I'm going to tell the boys I appreciate what they're doing, okay?
Come in for a minute.
You want to leave?
I don't know.
It's a shame.
It's a shame.
Yeah.
Well, don't you worry about that.
I'm going to tell the boys I appreciate what they're doing, okay?
Come in for a minute.

NARA Description

On June 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:27 pm to 5:29 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 441-022 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 441-22

Date: June 5, 1973
Time: 5:27 pm - 5:29 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with William E. Timmons.

[See Conversation No. 39-96]

Also recorded on June 5, 1973

  • 039-093 5:21 PM · 4 min — White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Gerald R. Ford talked on the telephone from 5:21 pm to 5:25 pm.
  • 441-019 5:21 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Gerald R. Ford met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:21 pm to 5:25 pm.
  • 441-020 5:25 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:25 pm and 5:27 pm.
  • 039-094 5:26 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at 5:26 pm.
  • 039-095 5:26 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:26 pm and 5:27 pm.
  • 441-021 5:26 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:26 pm and 5:27 pm.
  • 039-096 5:27 PM · 1 min — White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, William E. Timmons, and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. talked on the telephone from 5:27 pm to 5:29 pm.
  • 441-023 5:29 PM · 1 hr 41 min — President Richard M. Nixon, J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr., unknown person(s), and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:29 pm to 7:14 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 441-022, June 5, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/441-022 (accessed October 12, 2026).