Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 445 › Conversation 445-003

Nixon & Ziegler on Legislative Strategy and Executive Communication

Wednesday, June 13, 1973 · 11:33 AM–11:36 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation445-003 on Tape 445StartWednesday, June 13, 1973 at 11:33 AMEndWednesday, June 13, 1973 at 11:36 AMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 445-003 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler coordinate the dissemination strategy for an upcoming policy text to ensure legislative leaders and their staff receive it simultaneously at 7:00 p.m. Nixon explicitly instructs Ziegler to withhold the document from congressional leaders and staff beforehand to prevent unauthorized revisions or delays. This measure aims to maintain executive control over the messaging and prevent legislative interference with the final text.

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Pain, love, and the void that was within Henry's accomplishment.
Oh, I would think so.
We shouldn't have to lose another battle.
Well, they should, because we can't have it in a place like this, where everybody always says, like, you know, something's big.
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If you don't, you better act overrated, right?
Do you copy?
Yeah?
Well, we don't tell them that because of the technical markets and so forth and so on.
The text will be delivered to them at 7 o'clock.
Tell the leaders that, but don't give the leaders or the captains the text because otherwise they'll hang over and want to make changes to figure that out.
Yeah, be sure that that gets to everybody.
The leaders on the cabins did get no text.
The text will be available at 7 o'clock.
How's that?

NARA Description

On June 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:33 am to 11:36 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 445-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 445-3

Date: June 13, 1973
Time: 11:33 am - 11:36 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

[See Conversation No. 40-66]

Also recorded on June 13, 1973

  • 040-064 11:22 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone from 11:22 am to 11:26 am.
  • 040-065 11:26 AM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:26 am and 11:33 am.
  • 445-002 11:26 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:26 am and 11:33 am.
  • 040-066 11:35 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 11:35 am to 11:36 am.
  • 040-067 11:36 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:36 am and 11:37 am.
  • 445-004 11:36 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:36 am and 11:37 am.
  • 040-068 11:37 AM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. talked on the telephone from 11:37 am to 11:38 am.
  • 445-005 11:37 AM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:37 am to 11:38 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 445-003, June 13, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/445-003 (accessed October 9, 2026).