Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 449 › Conversation 449-013

Nixon & Bull on Virginia H. Knauer and White House administration

Tuesday, September 21, 1971 · 1:40 PM–2:30 PM ET · Oval Office ·7 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation449-013 onTape 449 (tape position 02:35:59–02:37:00)StartTuesday, September 21, 1971 at 1:40 PMEndTuesday, September 21, 1971 at 2:30 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 449-013 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to discuss administrative concerns and handle specific directives regarding Virginia H. Knauer. The discussion focused on the President's personal notes concerning Knauer, indicating an interest in her professional activities or future status. The meeting concluded with Bull tasked with administrative follow-up based on these presidential instructions.

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NARA Description

On September 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:40 pm and 2:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 449-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 449-13

Date: September 21, 1971
Time: Unknown between 1:40 pm and 2:30 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull[?].

     Note from the President
          -Virginia H. Knauer

Bull [?] left at an unknown time before 2:30 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 449-013, September 21, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/449-013 (accessed September 18, 2026).