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Nixon & Colson on Surveillance and Political strategy

Tuesday, April 13, 1971 · 11:14 AM–11:17 AM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.Conversation478-006 on Tape 478 (tape position 01:49:04–01:51:22)StartTuesday, April 13, 1971 at 11:14 AMEndTuesday, April 13, 1971 at 11:17 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 478-006 ↗

President Nixon and Charles Colson briefly coordinated their schedules regarding upcoming meetings and discussed ongoing efforts to monitor an unnamed individual. The dialogue touches on strategic surveillance and public perception management, suggesting that their oversight tactics were successfully keeping the subject cautious. No formal policy decisions were made, as the conversation focused primarily on operational logistics and the status of their intelligence activities.

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I'm meeting with the scouting officer.
Do you want to come down?
Are you free?
What are you doing?
What are you doing now?
Meeting somebody?
Fine, fine, fine.
Okay.
Or do you want me to see them all that night?
Sure, sure, sure.
All right.
Sure.
Yeah, yeah, I'll do that.
Fine, fine.
It must have been a shock.
Good shit.
So he's still pulling.
So he knows we're watching.
Well, after all, our RC was published, too, so that keeps him a little bit honest.
You did?
Fine, fine.
Yeah.
Good.
I know, I know.
Well, then maybe you don't want to, well, on the other hand, you may be better.
Yeah, but he was too popular, maybe.
Uh-huh.
Okay, fine, good.

On April 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:14 am to 11:17 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 478-006 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 478-6

Date: April 13, 1971
Time: 11:14 am - 11:17 am
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with Charles W. Colson

[See Conversation No. 1-78]
  • 001-076 10:16 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Peter G. Peterson, and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 10:16 am to 10:21 am.
  • 001-077 11:13 AM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone from 11:13 am to 11:14 am.
  • 478-003 11:13 AM · 36 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:13 am.
  • 478-004 11:13 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:13 am.
  • 001-078 11:14 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 11:14 am to 11:17 am.
  • 478-005 11:14 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:14 am.
  • 478-007 11:17 AM · 57 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, John A. Scali, White House photographer, Stephen B. Bull, unknown person(s), and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:17 am and 12:18 pm.
  • 478-008 12:18 PM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Carl M. Yastrzemski, and Henry C. Cashen, II met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:18 pm to 12:33 pm.

Conversation 478-006, April 13, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/478-006 (accessed October 12, 2026).