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Nixon & Bull on John A. Scali and Henry A. Kissinger

Tuesday, April 13, 1971 · 11:13 AM ET · Oval Office · 36 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation478-003 on Tape 478 (tape position 01:47:41–01:48:38)StartTuesday, April 13, 1971 at 11:13 AMEndTuesday, April 13, 1971 at 11:13 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 478-003 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to review and finalize the President’s daily schedule. The discussion focused on coordinating appointments with John A. Scali, Oliver F. Atkins, and Henry A. Kissinger. They confirmed the expected duration and logistical arrangements for these upcoming meetings.

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Okay, that's good, Jim.
That's all we're sure you should like.
That's all we should be sure of.
We'll have all of you on the set.
We'll just take a quick look.
We do have a destination.
That's all we're sure of.
That's all we're sure of.

On April 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:13 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 478-003 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 478-3

Date: April 13, 1971
Time: 11:13 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull

     President’s schedule
          -John A. Scali
                -Length of meeting
          -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
          -Henry A. Kissinger

Bull left at 11:13 am
  • 001-076 10:16 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Peter G. Peterson, and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 10:16 am to 10:21 am.
  • 001-077 11:13 AM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone from 11:13 am to 11:14 am.
  • 478-004 11:13 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:13 am.
  • 001-078 11:14 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 11:14 am to 11:17 am.
  • 478-005 11:14 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:14 am.
  • 478-006 11:14 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:14 am to 11:17 am.
  • 478-007 11:17 AM · 57 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, John A. Scali, White House photographer, Stephen B. Bull, unknown person(s), and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:17 am and 12:18 pm.
  • 478-008 12:18 PM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Carl M. Yastrzemski, and Henry C. Cashen, II met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:18 pm to 12:33 pm.

Conversation 478-003, April 13, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/478-003 (accessed October 12, 2026).