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Nixon & Pontier on Presidential Authority and Administration Management

Friday, May 7, 1971 · 6:17 PM ET · Oval Office · 15 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Pontier, AndreyConversation495-028 on Tape 495 (tape position 05:03:29–05:04:46)StartFriday, May 7, 1971 at 6:17 PMEndFriday, May 7, 1971 at 6:17 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 495-028 ↗

President Richard M. Nixon met with Andrey Pontier in the Oval Office to discuss management and control concerns within the administration. The conversation centered on the necessity of re-establishing authority and improving operational oversight. No specific policy decisions were finalized, but the discussion emphasized the President's frustration regarding current administrative discipline.

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On May 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Andrey Pontier met in the Oval Office of the White House at 6:17 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 495-028 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 495-28

Date: May 7, 1971
Time: 6:17 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with an unknown man [Alexander P. Butterfield].
     President's briefcase

     [Unintelligible]

/The President and the unknown man [Butterfield] left at 6:17 pm.
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  • 002-122 4:32 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:32 pm and 4:33 pm.
  • 495-024 4:32 PM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:32 pm and 4:33 pm.
  • 495-025 4:32 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:32 pm and 4:33 pm.
  • 495-026 4:33 PM · 1 hr 16 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John N. Mitchell, John B. Connally, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:33 pm to 5:53 pm.
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Conversation 495-028, May 7, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/495-028 (accessed October 3, 2026).