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Start Date: 20-Sep-1971 5:34 PM

End Date: 20-Sep-1971 6:19 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")[Unknown person(s)]Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:53:18

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:36:59

577a.mp3

577b.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:34 pm to 6:19 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 577-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 577-17
                                            38

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)



Date: September 20, 1971
Time: 5:34 pm - 6:19 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     The President's schedule
          -Henry A. Kissinger
          -Trip to Detroit
                -Types of press coverage
                      -Electronic pool camera
                           -Tape
                                 -Time of day
                      -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                           -Delay
                      -Radio
                           -Live
                -National news
                      -Possible problems in Detroit
                      -Oval Office press conference
                -Preparation
                      -John B. Connally
                -Press coverage problems
                -Media
                      -Newspaper editors
                           -Questions
                      -Radio
                -Film
                      -Amount of work
                           -Question of impact
                -Speaking schedule
                      -Dates
                -Spiro T. Agnew
                      -Banquet
                      -Dates
          -Disney World opening
          -Eisenhower Theater appearance
                -Date
                      -Changes
                -Mamie D. Eisenhower's appearance
          -Florida
                                                  39

                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 10/06)
                                                                        Conv. No. 577-17 (cont.)


             -Eisenhower Theater
                  -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II

     Polls
             -George H. Gallup poll
                  -Weekend results
                       -Edward M. Kennedy
                  -Timing
                       -August 15, 1971 speech
                       -Approval vs. disapproval of the President's performance
                              -Points
                  -Weekend
                       -Date
                  -Point fluctuations

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 5:34 pm and 5:48 pm.

[Conversation No. 577-17A]

     Gallup poll results
          -Request

[End of telephone conversation]

     Polls
             -Gallup poll
                  -Figures
                        -Timing
                        -Date
             -Louis P. Harris poll
                  -Date
             -Gallup poll and Harris poll dates
             -Kennedy poll
                  -Date

     Press coverage of the President
           -Detroit Economic Club trip
                -National television
                            -Types of questions
                      -Impact in polls
           -National television
                                             40

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 577-17 (cont.)


               -Impact
          -Oval Office press conference coverage
               -Question and answer [Q&A] type sessions
          -Detroit trip
               -Impact
          -Radio
          -Live television
               -Q&A format
                      -Exposure
                      -Amount of work
          -Commentaries
          -Press planning
               -Ronald L. Ziegler
                      -Handling of press poll

     Miss America pageant winners
          -The President's meeting with Miss America 1971, 1972

The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 5:34 pm and 6:19
pm.

[Conversation No. 577-17B]

     Request for Ziegler to join meeting

[End of telephone conversation]

     Miss America pageant winners
          -Miss America 1971
          -Miss America 1972
          -Miss America 1971
          -Phyllis George
               -Vietnam War issue
               -Domestic issues
                     -Support for programs
                          -Reaction to the press
               -Travel

     The President's conversation with J. Edgar Hoover
          -Status of job
          -Conversation
                                              41

                              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 577-17 (cont.)


                -Confidentiality
           -John D. Ehrlichman
           -Mitchell
           -Perceptions

Ziegler entered at 5:48 pm.

     Detroit trip
          -Film coverage
                  -Live coverage
                        -Timing
                        -Recent trend
                  -Coverage
          -Ziegler's conversation with television executives
                  -Neil Sheehan
                  -Possible economic statement
                        -News value
                  -New Fall television programming season
                  -Month
                        -Coverage
          -Television coverage
                  -Exposure
          -Radio coverage
          -Detroit Economic Club
                  -Radio
          -Live coverage
                  -Q&A
                        -Number of cameras
                  -Speech
          -Format
                  -Panel
                  -Comparison with American Society of Newspaper Editors [ASNE] event
                        format
                  -Businessmen and labor leaders
                        -Questioning
          -Film coverage of press conference
          -Impact
                  -Film coverage compared to electronic coverage of press conference
                        -Types of preparation
                             -Q&A press conference
                             -Office press conference
                                            42

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 577-17 (cont.)


           -Q&A session in Detroit
           -Radio coverage
           -Television coverage
           -Q&A
                -Radio coverage
           -Press coverage
                -Types of preparation by the administration
           -Film coverage
                -Impact
                -Advantages for the administration
           -Radio coverage
           -Electronic camera coverage
                -News story
                       -News programs
                             -Time
           -Media
                -Q&A
                       -Portland, Oregon
                -Presence of cameras
                -Q&A
                       -Preparation
           -Press conference
           -Time differences between Washington, DC and Detroit
                -Q&A
                       -Impact
                       -Preparation
                             -News stories
           -Connally's absence
                -The President's role
                -Live coverage
                -Press conference
           -Radio coverage
           -Ziegler's conversation with television executives
                -Camera coverage
           -Radio
                -National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
                -CBS
           -Attendance

Ziegler left at 5:57 pm.
                                         43

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 577-17 (cont.)


Polls
        -Gallup poll from August 27-30, 1971
              -Recent percentage points
              -Date span
                    -Trend
              -Percentage points
              -President's popularity rating
                    -Intensity of ratings
                          -Percentage points
                          -Previous poll percentage points
                                -Changes
              -Date
                    -Percentage points
                    -Changes
                          -Previous poll figures
              -Date
                    -Impact of People’s Republic of China [PRC] summit announcement
                    -Percentage points
                    -Month
                    -Percentage points
              -Date
                    -Disapproval
                    -Current points
              -Date
                    -Publication of polls
        -Gallup
        -Harris
        -White House poll
              -Dwight L. Chapin
              -Lawrence M. Higby
              -Kissinger's figures
        -Poll results
              -Current trend
              -PRC trip
                    -The administration's poll
                          -Percentage points
                          -Increase
                          -Comparison to Gallup
                    -Differences in Gallup poll and White House poll
                          -Percentage points
        -White House poll
                                        44

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 577-17 (cont.)


          -Discrepancy in comparison to Gallup
                -Telephone poll compared to field poll format
                     -Factors
                           -Lt. William L. Calley, Jr. case
                                  -April-September time span
     -Type of sample
          -Harris
                -Youth
                -Blacks
                -Doctors
                -Type of poll
                -Quality of polls
                     -Types of issues
          -Possible bias
                -Gallup
                     -Comparison of figures with White House poll
          -Dates
          -Question of issues
                -The President's speech before Congress

US economic policy
     -Public perception
          -Wage and price controls
                -Continuation of process
                      -Phase II
                -Wording of the President's speech
                      -End of freeze
                            -November 13, 1971 date
                      -William L. Safire
                -Follow-up program
                      -Announcement
                            -Impact
                                 -Analogy to PRC initiative
          -Lyndon B. Johnson
                -Glassboro Summit
          -Announcement
                -Alexei N. Kosygin

Forthcoming US-Soviet Union summit
     -Impact on polls
                                          45

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 577-17 (cont.)


Polls
        -Impact of issues
             -PRC trip
             -Intentions
        -Leadership perception
        -Public reaction

Campaigning

Detroit trip
     -National television
             -Effect
             -Demonstrations
             -Public awareness of issue
                   -National Security Council [NSC] meeting
             -Effect
     -West Coast
             -Portland, Oregon
             -Q&A format
                   -White House press
                        -Types of questions
             -Electronic coverage
             -Microphones

Supreme Court
     -The President's appointment of judges
           -Ideology
     -Liberals
     -The President's choice
           -Reactions to choices
     -Patrick J. Buchanan's recommendations
           -Richard H. Poff
                 -Conservatism of nominee
                 -The South
                 -Full court
                       -Number
                 -Democrats
                       -Timing
                             -Robert P. Griffin
                       -Election year
                       -Democrat senators
                                              46

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 577-17 (cont.)


                                   -Reaction
                       -Election year
                       -Mitchell
                       -Warren E. Burger, Harry M. Blackmun
                       -Strict constructionism
                       -Burger’s speech at Georgetown Center
                       -Senate
                       -Further appointment
                             -Ethnic Catholic
                                   -Italians
                                   -Irish
                                   -Polish
                       -Routing to Mitchell
          -Italian judge
                 -Unknown person
          -Polish judge
          -Protestant
                 -Catholic
                 -William French Smith
                       -Conservatism
          -Catholic
                 -Conservatism

     Romana Acosta Banuelos
         -Swearing-in ceremony
         -Effect of naming Hispanic to post of Treasurer of the US

     Buchanan's memorandum
         -Mitchell

The President and Haldeman left at 6:19 pm.