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Conversation: 602-006

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Start Date: 26-Oct-1971 11:35 AM

End Date: 26-Oct-1971 12:18 PM

Participants:

Butterfield, Alexander P.Bennett, Wallace F.Shultz, George P.MacGregor, ClarkEhrlichman, John D.Nixon, Richard M. (President)White House operator[Unknown person(s)]Acker, Marjorie P.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:58:53

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:41:27

602a.mp3

602b.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 26, 1971, Alexander P. Butterfield, Wallace F. Bennett, George P. Shultz, Clark MacGregor, John D. Ehrlichman, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, unknown person(s), and Marjorie P. Acker met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:35 am to 12:18 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 602-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 602-6

Date: October 26, 1971
Time: 11:35 am - 12:18 pm
Location: Oval Office

Alexander P. Butterfield met with Wallace F. Bennett, George P. Shultz, Clark MacGregor, and
John D. Ehrlichman.

     The President's location

     Shultz

     James D. Hodgson

     Sculptor, [Forename unknown Remington ?]
          -Unknown man's wife
          -Work by assistants

     Ehrlichman

     Water quality
         -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
         -Gordon L. Allott

     John B. Connally


The President and White House photographer entered at an unknown time after 11:35 am.
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)




     Greetings

     The President's schedule
          -William P. Rogers
                -Press conference

White House photographer and Butterfield left at an unknown time before 12:18 pm.

     Finance legislation
          -William Proxmire
          -Paul H. Douglas
                -Charles H. Percy
                -Health
          -Russell B. Long
          -Scenario for Senate vote
                -Long
                      -Abraham A. Ribicoff
                            -House Resolution [HR] 1
                -Ribicoff
                      -HR 1
                -Vance Hartke
                -Long
                      -Amendment
                            -Ceiling on interest
                                  -Arthur F. Burns
          -Finance Committee
                -Tax cut
                -Long
                      -Wright Patman
                      -Huey Long
                -Staff briefing
                      -Activities
          -American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organization [AFL-CIO]
               position
          -Income
                -Taxation
          -Finance Committee
                -Republicans
                      -Feeling about House version of the bill
                -Expropriation amendment
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                            Conv. No. 602-6 (cont.)


      -Long
            -Sugar Bill
-Interdepartmental relations
      -State Department
      -Treasury Department
      -Connally
      -The President's position
-Sugar Bill
      -Grace Shipping Line
      -Bennett's position
-Long
-State Department
-Scenario for Senate vote
      -Michael J. Mansfield
      -Long
            -Conversation with Bennett
                  -Amendments
                        -HR 1
            -Views
-Banking Committee
      -Bill on interest and dividends
            -Proxmire
            -John J. Sparkman
-HR 1
      -Tax bill
            -Senate passage
      -Senate hearings
            -Social Security
            -Family assistance
      -Conversations with Elliot L. Richardson, Long and committee staff
            -Task force
                  -Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
                  -Labor
      -Family assistance plan
            -Work requirements
      -Long
      -Possibility of committee support
      -Family assistance
      -Ribicoff plan
            -Possibility of approval
      -Scenario for House-Senate compromise
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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 602-6 (cont.)


                   -Wilbur D. Mills
              -Work at staff level
                   -Responsiveness to Long
                   -Bennett, Herman E. Talmadge
              -Possible compromise position support
                   -Talmadge
                   -Clinton P. Anderson
                   -Harry F. Byrd, Jr.
                   -Carl T. Curtis
              -Possible subdivisions of the bill
              -Senate schedule
                   -Supreme Court confirmations
                   -Okinawa Reversion Treaty
                         -W. Stuart Symington


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 3s ]


    SECURITY


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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                          -J. William Fulbright
                    -Long
                    -Revenue sharing bill
                          -Welfare
                          -Social Security
                          -Medical bills
                    -Taxes
                          -Social Security taxes
         -Social Security legislation
         -Tax bill
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 602-6 (cont.)


                -Withholding rate
           -Mansfield
                -Democratic Policy Committee
                      -Finance Committee
                           -HR 1
                                 -Long
                                 -Hugh Scott
           -Finance Committee
                -Anderson
                -Talmadge
                -Byrd
                -Curtis
                -Ribicoff
                -John J. Williams
                -Long
                      -Connally
                      -The President's schedule

     Office of Management and Budget [OMB]'s relationship with Bennett

     Judges
          -American Bar Association [ABA]
              -Utah

     ABA
           -The President's reminiscence
                -Relationship with ABA

     Gift presentations
           -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
           -Frances (Grant) Bennett

The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 11:35 am and 12:18
pm.

[Conversation No. 602-6A]

     Request for photograph to be brought to Oval Office

[End of telephone conversation]
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 602-6 (cont.)


     Indira Gandhi

     United Nations [UN]
          -The President's conversation with Ronald W. Reagan

Marjorie P. Acker entered at 12:15 pm.

     Photograph
          -The President's instructions on photograph

Acker left at 12:16 pm.

     UN vote on Taiwan
         -The President's conversation with Reagan
               -African nations
         -Reaction

Bennett, et al. left at 12:18 pm.