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Nixon & Bull on Health and Personal matters

Wednesday, February 2, 1972 · 12:41 PM–12:43 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation664-012 on Tape 664 (tape position 01:33:59–01:34:48)StartWednesday, February 2, 1972 at 12:41 PMEndWednesday, February 2, 1972 at 12:43 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 664-012 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed the personal health history and recent activities of an unnamed individual, specifically regarding a past heart attack suffered while hunting. The conversation touches upon the physical limitations resulting from this medical event and implications for future scheduling. The exchange serves as a brief check-in regarding the logistics of an upcoming engagement involving the President’s spouse.

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1:34:00Your wife is saying that every member does.
1:34:03I didn't know he was sick when he was hurt.
1:34:05But he had a heart attack.
1:34:06Was it a heart attack?
1:34:07He had a heart attack or something like that.
1:34:09I know.
1:34:09That's why I can't have it.
1:34:11I got it.
1:34:12He was sick.
1:34:13He had a heart attack some time ago.
1:34:16And he had to go hunting.
1:34:21He was a hunter.
1:34:22That's right.
1:34:24And he went hunting.
1:34:25Low country.
1:34:26And he had a heart attack.
1:34:27At a conference.
1:34:29Oh, it was in the 18th.
1:34:46My wife, you know, is coming with me, and she's got to start a Saigon.
1:34:51But certainly we've got word that King's out to check her back.

NARA Description

On February 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:41 pm and 12:43 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 664-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 664-12

Date: February 2, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:41 pm and 12:43 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     President’s schedule
          -Meeting
                -Timing

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:43 pm.

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  • 664-010 12:35 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Richard W. Mallary, Richard K. Cook, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:35 pm to 12:41 pm.
  • 664-011 12:41 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:41 pm and 12:43 pm.
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 664-012, February 2, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/664-012 (accessed October 1, 2026).