Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 867 › Conversation 867-036

Nixon, Elbourne & Bull on Disney Travel Company and White House photography

Friday, March 2, 1973 · 5:05 PM–5:14 PM ET · Oval Office · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Elbourne, Timothy G.; Elbourne, Timothy G. (Mrs.); Elbourne, Kathy; Elbourne, Kirsten; Bull, Stephen B.Conversation867-036 on Tape 867StartFriday, March 2, 1973 at 5:05 PMEndFriday, March 2, 1973 at 5:14 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 867-036 ↗

President Nixon met with Timothy G. Elbourne and his family in the Oval Office to bid them farewell as Elbourne transitioned to a new position at the Disney Travel Company in California. The discussion touched upon Elbourne's prior advance work for the administration, including his contributions to the President's trip to the People's Republic of China. The meeting concluded with the President posing for photographs and providing autographs for the family.

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How are you?
How are you?
Well, you're going out to Disney, huh?
Yes, sir.
That's great, sir.
It's good for them.
It's good for you, too.
Thank you.
You've got a minor, right?
You've got a minor, sir.
You've got a minor, sir.
You've got a minor, sir.
You've got a minor, sir.
You've got a minor, sir.
You've got a minor, sir.
You've got a minor, sir.
You've got a minor, sir.
You've got a minor, sir.
You've got a minor, sir.
Thank you very much.
Well, he did a great job.
He's lucky to get you.
He's lucky to get you.
And he was living in California first.
Where are you going?
Down there.
So we'll be back to visit.
Visit our old pals.
Well, you worked in California.
Yeah, I was at Disney before.
Disney before?
Just go back home.
They are.
There must be people asking that, too.
Oh, I don't know.
Well, they do.
Are they paid?
Yeah.
They're doing very well at one of their make-or-no-buck-a-stock auctions, and that's worth saying.
That's right.
Tim has a very good view.
Mr. President, I would just adore if you could do that.
It's one of those great pictures that he sent me when we did the library that he was doing.
Thank you.
There you are.
Sit.
Who's yours?
Thank you very much.
Thanks a lot.
President, we have one more at the staff department.
We're done.
Oh, yeah.
All right.

On March 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Timothy G. Elbourne, Mrs. Elbourne, Kathy Elbourne, Kirsten Elbourne, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:05 pm and 5:14 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 867-036 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 867-36

Date: March 2, 1973
Time: Unknown between 5:05 pm and 5:14 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Timothy G. Elbourne, Mrs. Timothy G. Elbourne, Kathy Elbourne,
Timothy Elbourne and Kirsten Elbourne; the White House photographer was present at the
beginning of the meeting.

        Greetings/introductions
              -New job at Disney

        Photographs
             -Arrangements
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                                Conversation No. 867-36 (cont’d)

       Elbournes's work
            -People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip
            -President's appreciation

       New job at Disney Travel Co.
            -Residence in Anaheim, California
            -Stock options

       Photograph
            -President's autograph
            -Copies

       California

       Advance work
           -Ronald L. Ziegler

Elbourne et al. left at 5:12 pm. Stephen B. Bull entered at 5:12 pm.

       President's meeting with Donna J. Kingwell

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:14 pm.
  • 867-020 4:08 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 4:08 pm.
  • 867-021 4:08 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Edwin S. Cohen, and Mrs. Cohen met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm.
  • 867-035 5:05 PM · 28 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at 5:05 pm.
  • 867-037 5:12 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Herbert G. Klein, Stephen B. Bull, and Donna J. Kingwell met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:12 pm to 5:14 pm.
  • 037-033 5:14 PM · 13 sec — Henry A. Kissinger and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:14 pm and 5:31 pm.
  • 867-038 5:14 PM · 25 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, White House operator, unknown person(s), and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:14 pm to 5:40 pm.
  • 867-039 5:40 PM · 12 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:40 pm to 5:51 pm.
  • 867-040 5:52 PM · 48 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), Stephen B. Bull, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:52 pm to 6:40 pm.

Conversation 867-036, March 2, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/867-036 (accessed October 12, 2026).