Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 897 › Conversation 897-010

Nixon & Bull on Energy policy and Congressional relations

Monday, April 16, 1973 · 11:57 AM–12:00 PM ET · Oval Office · 7 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation897-010 on Tape 897StartMonday, April 16, 1973 at 11:57 AMEndMonday, April 16, 1973 at 12:00 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 897-010 ↗

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President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to review and adjust the President's upcoming schedule, specifically focusing on managing high-level meetings and administrative commitments. Key discussions included the reorganization of energy policy briefings, the coordination of bipartisan congressional meetings, and logistical arrangements for upcoming events and film messages. Nixon instructed Bull to clear his immediate agenda to manage his workload and prioritize interactions with key economic and legislative leaders.

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Don't put anything else on today or tomorrow.

Yes, sir.

President Lowry is sitting down.

Thank you.

I got a roll.

Well, you already told him?

Yes, you have.

Yes, he's been told.

All right.

I can try to move him back to where he was doing it.

All right.

Just keep your eyes on the break.

I don't know if you understand what she told you.

I don't know whether you want the assistant secretaries or the undersecretaries.

Is that correct?

All right.

Bill Timmons, if you have a recommendation.

He's so compatible with the energy consulting.

On the 3rd, this is just released by a huge bipartisan leader.

Jackson, Javis, and Randolph-Gough are going to lead in the 3rd.

So what Timmons has recommended

is that the conclusion of the bipartisan meeting on Wednesday, which is on energy, at 9.30, to just come in here with Albert O'Neill, Ford, Manziel, Scott, and Jackson, who are going to be in the energy meeting anyway, to bring in Javits and Ribicoff, and just do the session right here at that point, rather than taking another time.

You also suggested that since

He said, well, not really.

He said, Bill said he'd handle that problem.

Okay, there's one alert to the fact that this person is going to this Museum of Natural History tonight here to send her fortune.

There's a black.

She's not going to the reception.

Afterwards, there's a recommendation that you do go and ask her.

I'm going to see Roy Ashton.

I'm going to recommend that you do a film clip on energy on Wednesday.

All right.

There's also a recommendation.

I'm sorry.

There's also been recommended that you do a so-called energy commitment.

This would be on Wednesday.

Now, what you have done is energy.

You've got a film club.

You've got the .

Why do I need them to discuss the message?

I thought I'm going to be at the leader's.

Are they going to be at the leader's meeting?

Yes, sir, they are.

I'm not going to stay at the second meeting at all.

I wish I was in the leader's with all of you.

I'm about time.

Now, you indicated that you wanted to have a joint meeting.

Uh, that still wasn't in the suite.

Uh, it could be, uh, Wednesday afternoon, maybe.

Or what do you think they are, the burns?

Well, one of the burns, we do, uh, A1, we do burns tomorrow at 3.

I'm putting them on.

I'm putting them off, and then I have to put burns in a quadriangle.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

NARA Description

On April 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:57 am and 12:00 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 897-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 897-10

Date: April 16, 1973
Time: Unknown between 11:57 am and 12:00 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President’s schedule
              -Forthcoming events
              -Alcoholics Anonymous [AA]
              -President of Rotary
                      -President’s signature [?]
              -Recommendation of John D. Ehrlichman and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                      -Postponement
              -Giulio Andreotti’s arrival
                      -President’s afternoon break
              -Cabinet
                      -Meetings with Secretaries and Undersecretaries
                              -Ehrlichman
              -William E. Timmons’s recommendation
                      -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson, Jacob K. Javits, Abraham A. Ribicoff
                              -Jewish bipartisan leaders
                              -Travel for Easter weekend
                      -Congressional meeting
                              -Energy
                      -Carl B. Albert, Thomas P. (“Tip”) O’Neill, Jr., Gerald R. Ford, Hugh
                       Scott, Jackson
                                                -10-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 897-10 (cont’d)

                     -George D. Aiken
                             -Inclusion in meeting
                     -J. William Fulbright
                             -Meeting with Timmons
                     -Smithsonian Museum of Natural History concert
                             -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                             -Sanford Fortune [?]
                                     -Reception attendance
                     -Roy L. Ash
                     -Film message on energy
                     -Energy meeting
                             -Ehrlichman
                             -Leadership meeting
              -Troika
              -Arthur F. Burns
                     -Quadriad
                             -Burns’s inclusion
                     -George P. Shultz
              -William P. Rogers
                     -Executive Office Building [EOB]

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:00 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 897-010, April 16, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/897-010 (accessed October 12, 2026).