Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 14 › Conversation 014-134

Nixon phone call with Flanigan on NATO and Diplomatic Appointments

Tuesday, November 16, 1971 · 1:08 PM–1:09 PM ET · White House Telephone · 54 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Flanigan, Peter M.; Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Flanigan, Peter M.Conversation014-134 on Tape 14 (tape position 04:06:00–04:06:54)StartTuesday, November 16, 1971 at 1:08 PMEndTuesday, November 16, 1971 at 1:09 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 014-134 ↗

President Nixon consulted with Peter M. Flanigan regarding potential diplomatic appointments, specifically inquiring about progress on the NATO ambassadorship and a position concerning Japan. Flanigan indicated he was awaiting feedback from Henry Kissinger regarding John J. McCloy’s interest in the NATO post and confirmed an upcoming meeting with Hoyt Ammidon to discuss the Japanese assignment. Additionally, the two discussed personnel vetting, with Flanigan noting that William S. Stuckey, Jr. had been deemed unsuitable for a specific role following advice from Clark MacGregor.

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Yeah.
Mr. Peter Flanagan?
Yeah.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
Do you have anything to report on Thayer, on the NATO thing yet?
I was waiting to hear the answer on McCloy, and Henry was going to tell me after his meeting this morning, but has not yet.
He hasn't?
Well, I'll get after him and have him tell you.
What about Amidon on Japan?
He shows some interest, and I'm going to see him at 2.15 this afternoon.
And that's on Japan?
And that's on Japan.
Right.
Fine.
I've cleared that one with Connolly, and I've cleared Thayer with him, so we're all right on that.
Well, I can call Walter this afternoon if the other one... Do you happen to know?
Is the other one dead?
McCloy?
I'll have...
I don't know because I haven't seen Kissinger, but I'll find out.
Incidentally, I did check on Stuckey, and he's not tough enough, according to Clark, so we're finding another fellow.
All right.
Okay.
Good luck.
Thank you.

On November 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Peter M. Flanigan talked on the telephone from 1:08 pm to 1:09 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 014-134 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 14-134

Date: November 16, 1971
Time: 1:08 pm - 1:09 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

     Peter M. Flanigan

The President talked with Flanigan.

[See Conversation No. 619-28D]

     North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] Ambassador
          -Walter M. Thayer
          -John J. McCloy
               -Henry A. Kissinger's forthcoming call

     Japan
          -Hoyt Ammidon
               -Forthcoming meeting with Flanigan
               -John B. Connally's view

     NATO Ambassador
        -Thayer
        -McCloy
             -Kissinger

     Williamson S. Stuckey, Jr.[?]
          -Clark MacGregor's views
  • 014-130 12:30 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and 12:33 pm.
  • 014-131 12:30 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and 12:33 pm.
  • 619-027 12:30 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and 12:33 pm.
  • 619-028 12:33 PM · 1 hr 23 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, Peter M. Flanigan, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:33 pm to 1:59 pm.
  • 014-132 12:46 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 1:08 pm.
  • 014-133 12:46 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 1:08 pm.
  • 014-135 1:13 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:13 pm and 1:17 pm.
  • 014-136 1:17 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Peter M. Flanigan talked on the telephone from 1:17 pm to 1:18 pm.

Conversation 014-134, November 16, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/014-134 (accessed October 1, 2026).