Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 37 › Conversation 037-180

Nixon phone call with Brennan on George P. Shultz and White House logistics

Tuesday, March 20, 1973 · 7:52 PM–7:53 PM ET · White House Telephone · 23 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, John V.Conversation037-180 on Tape 37StartTuesday, March 20, 1973 at 7:52 PMEndTuesday, March 20, 1973 at 7:53 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 037-180 ↗

President Nixon directed Major Jack Brennan to ascertain the specific arrival time of Secretary of the Treasury George P. Shultz for his return to Washington on the following Thursday. The President sought this information to coordinate his schedule with the Secretary's availability. Brennan acknowledged the request and committed to reporting back to the President with the precise details.

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Major Brennan.
Would you find out what time Secretary Shultz gets back Thursday?
He's supposed to be back Thursday sometime.
I just want to see whether he gets back in the...
I'll get right back in the evening sometime.
Give me the time, please.
Thank you.
Very well, sir.

On March 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan talked on the telephone from 7:52 pm to 7:53 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 037-180 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 37-180

Date: March 20, 1973
Time: 7:52 pm-7:53 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with John V. (“Jack”) Brennan.

[See Conversation No. 422-10]

       George P. Shultz's schedule
             -Arrival in Washington, DC
  • 037-178 7:48 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 7:48 pm.
  • 037-179 7:48 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:48 pm and 7:52 pm.
  • 422-006 7:48 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 7:48 pm.
  • 422-007 7:48 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:48 pm and 7:52 pm.
  • 422-008 7:48 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:48 pm to 7:52 pm.
  • 422-009 7:52 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:52 pm to 7:53 pm.
  • 422-010 7:53 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 7:53 pm.
  • 422-011 7:53 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 7:58 pm.

Conversation 037-180, March 21, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/037-180 (accessed October 2, 2026).