Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 45 › Conversation 045-021

Ehrlichman & Ziegler on Watergate and John Dean

Thursday, April 26, 1973 · 6:50 PM–7:08 PM ET · White House Telephone · 4 min

ParticipantsEhrlichman, John D.; White House operator; Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation045-021 on Tape 45StartThursday, April 26, 1973 at 6:50 PMEndThursday, April 26, 1973 at 7:08 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 045-021 ↗

John D. Ehrlichman and Ronald L. Ziegler discuss the management of ongoing Watergate-related communications and public statements. Ziegler informs Ehrlichman that the President ordered him not to contact John Dean, and the two briefly touch upon the handling of a forthcoming written statement from Ehrlichman. Despite Ziegler expressing his disagreement with the content of that statement, Ehrlichman remains committed to discussing the matter further with the President.

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Would you dial 3-3-3-0-0-2-4, please?
Yes, sir.
I'm busy.
Do you want me to keep after it?
Would you re-dial it just to see if it's cleared off?
All right.
Want to just hold on?
I'll do it.
Okay, thanks.
I'll wait a few moments.
Well, can you give me an outside line?
I can dial it from here.
Uh-huh.
Or do you want me to try to break in on it?
No, no.
No, that's all right.
All right.
I'll give you an outside line.
Thank you.
.
.
Ron Ziegler, please.
Thank you.
Hello, John Erickman.
Yes, John.
You haven't gotten Dean yet, I suppose.
The president called me and told me not to call him.
Oh, he did?
Oh, that's why I've been out here on the outside.
Did he say anything about putting this statement of mine out?
No.
Okay.
Well, he's talking now about putting it out from the White House office.
Here.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm having it retyped.
John, I don't agree with it.
I know it, and I'll tell him.
Okay.
Okay.

On April 26, 1973, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:50 pm and 7:08 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 045-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 45-21

Date: April 26, 1973
Time: Unknown between 6:50 pm and 7:08 pm
Location: White House Telephone

John D. Ehrlichman talked with the White House operator.

     Telephone number

The operator dialed a telephone number at an unknown time.

     Telephone call
          -Busy signal
          -Attempted call

The operator re-dialed at an unknown time.

     Telephone call
          -Attempted call

The operator re-dialed at an unknown time.

     Telephone call
          -Delay
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 45-21 (cont’d)

The operator re-dialed at an unknown time.

     Telephone call
          -Outside line

Ehrlichman dialed a telephone number at an unknown time between 6:50 pm and 7:08 pm.

[Dialing sound]

Ehrlichman talked with the White House operator.

     Telephone call to Ronald L. Ziegler

Ehrlichman talked with Ziegler at an unknown time between 6:50 pm and 8:00 pm.

     Watergate
          -Ziegler’s forthcoming call to Dean
                -President’s call to Ziegler
          -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming statement
                -Method of release
  • 045-014 5:55 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:55 pm and 5:56 pm.
  • 045-015 5:56 PM · 20 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry E. Petersen talked on the telephone from 5:56 pm to 6:17 pm.
  • 045-016 6:17 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:17 pm and 6:20 pm.
  • 045-017 6:17 PM · 18 sec — John D. Ehrlichman and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:17 pm and 6:20 pm.
  • 045-018 6:20 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Richard G. Kleindienst talked on the telephone from 6:20 pm to 6:24 pm.
  • 045-019 6:37 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:37 pm and 6:49 pm.
  • 045-020 6:49 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 6:49 pm to 6:50 pm.
  • 045-022 6:50 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:50 pm and 7:08 pm.

Conversation 045-021, April 26, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/045-021 (accessed October 5, 2026).