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Nixon, Cabinet Committee on Education & Council of Black Appointees

Monday, March 6, 1972 · 11:46 AM–12:27 PM ET · Cabinet Room · 39 min

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On March 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and members of the Cabinet Committee on Education and the Council of Black Appointees, including Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, John B. Connally, Elliot L. Richardson, Dr. Sidney P. Marland, Jr., John D. Ehrlichman, Roy D. Morey, Lewis A. Engman, Edward L. Morgan, Ronald L. Ziegler, Mary T. Brooks, William G. Colman, Hilda A. Davis, John H. Fischer, Dorothy M. L. Ford, Norman Francis, Eugene Gonzales, David H. Kurtzman, Rev. William E. McManus, Duane J. Matthies, Wendell H. Pierce, William G. Saltonstall, William B. Thompson, Ivan E. Zylstra, Norman Karsh, and Clint Pace, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 11:46 am to 12:27 pm. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 093-003 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 93-3

Date: March 6, 1972
Time: 11:46 am - 12:27 pm
Location: Cabinet Room

The President met with Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, John B. Connally, Elliot L. Richardson,
Dr. Sidney P. Marland, Jr., John D. Ehrlichman, Roy D. Morey, Lewis A. Engman, Edward L.
Morgan, Ronald L. Ziegler, Mary T. Brooks, William G. Colman, Hilda A. Davis, John H.
Fischer, Dorothy M. L. Ford, Norman Francis, Eugene Gonzales, David H. Kurtzman, Reverend
William E. McManus, Duane J. Matthies, Wendell H. Pierce, William G. Saltonstall, William B.
Thompson, Ivan E. Zylstra, Norman Karsh, and Clint Pace

     Greetings

     McManus

     Final report of the President’s Commission on School Finance
           -Work of Commission
                -Richardson, Marland
                -Type of research
                -Quantity vs. quality of report
           -Recommendations
                -Schools and citizens of community
                -Funds allocated
                       -Responsibility of states
                       -Federal government’s responsibility

           -School districts
-Urban Blacks
     -Inner city schools
           -Funding
                  -State government
                  -Federal government
                        -Experimentation
-Day care centers
     -Four year old children
           -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan statement
           -Classroom education
           -Home education
                  -Quality
-Non-public schools
     -Constitutionality
     -Transportation
     -Tuition
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           -Tax deductions
                  -Constitutionality
           -Reimbursements
     -Catholic schools
           -Role of Church
           -Studies conducted
           -Availability of funds
-School districts
     -Reorganization
     -Diverse economic groups and races
     -Quality of educational opportunities
           -Social, economic, and racial improvements
     -Busing issue
           -Transportation vs. quality education
           -Brown v. Board of Education
     -Child’s right to education
           -Quality of nearby school
                  -Rural areas
     -Teachers’ salaries
           -Regional differences
                  -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                  -Factors other than money
                        -Fee per student
                  -City compared to rural areas within a state
                  -Cost of education index

                            -Texas
                            -Maryland
                            -California
                            -Individual districts
                      -Percentages
           -Elementary-Secondary Education Act of 1965
                -Local financing
           -Maryland
                -Graduated income tax
                      -Need
                            -Cities and counties
                                  -Public safety
                                  -Public education
                            -Baltimore City
                            -Montgomery County
           -Court decisions
                -State
                      -Local enrichment
           -Equal funding
                -Cost of education index
                -Percentages
                      -Desirability
           -National debate
                -Districts
                      -Leveling off
                            -Cost

President’s appreciation for panel’s work
     -Schools’ need for money
     -Interest
     -Connally
     -Congress
           -Workload
           -Tax reform possibilities
     -Pierce
     -Fischer
     -Karsh [Executive Director]
     -Saltonstall
     -Quality of panel members
     -Opportunity
     -Result of quality education

     [General conversation/Unintelligible]

[Recording ends while the conversation is in progress]

The President, et al. left at 12:27 pm

No transcript is available yet for this conversation.

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Conversation 093-003, March 6, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/093-003 (accessed November 1, 2026).