Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 235 › Conversation 235-002

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Ron Ziegler and White House staff

Saturday, December 9, 1972 · 10:30 AM–12:22 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 28 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation235-002 on Tape 235StartSaturday, December 9, 1972 at 10:30 AMEndSaturday, December 9, 1972 at 12:22 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 235-002 ↗

President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, met at Camp David to discuss the President's upcoming consultation with Press Secretary Ron Ziegler. Julie encouraged her father to solicit Ziegler's private perspective on an unspecified proposal or idea. The President agreed to speak with Ziegler and keep his daughter informed of the outcome.

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Well, I do think you should talk to Ron.
If you would talk to him and ask him what he thinks of the idea.
Privately.
I will.
Let me know.

On December 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 12:22 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 235-002 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 235-2

Date: December 9, 1972
Time: Unknown between 10:30 am and 12:22 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                             Conversation No 235-2 (cont’d)

[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gifts]

       Ronald L. Ziegler
            -Discussion with the President

[End of segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 12:22 pm
  • 157-025 10:30 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 12:22 pm.
  • 235-001 10:30 AM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 12:22 pm.
  • 235-003 10:30 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 12:22 pm.
  • 235-026 10:30 AM · 15 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 12:22 pm.
  • 157-026 12:22 PM · 35 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:22 pm to 12:58 pm.
  • 235-004 12:22 PM · 23 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 12:22 pm to 12:58 pm.
  • 235-005 12:58 PM · 29 sec — Helene (Colesie) Drown, William Hirsch, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:58 pm and 1:58 pm.
  • 235-006 12:58 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Helene (Colesie) Drown met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:58 pm and 1:58 pm.

Conversation 235-002, December 9, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/235-002 (accessed October 10, 2026).