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Conversation 252-003

TapeTape 252StartWednesday, April 21, 1971 at 2:31 PMEndWednesday, April 21, 1971 at 2:42 PMTape start time00:03:38Tape end time00:08:42ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Colson, Charles W.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
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On April 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:31 pm to 2:42 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 252-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 252-3

Date: April 21, 1971
Time: 2:31 pm - 2:42 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Charles W. Colson

[See Conversation No. 42-63]
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Tells me the hard-ass were pleased with my well-bears, and, uh, I don't know how they heard about me.
What do they think of the crowd at the mall down there?
Do they mention that or do they see it?
It's awful.
They shouldn't fight veterans.
We're getting many points out of Dillman.
Some of those folks in the cabin have kind of got around.
That is somebody they know darn well.
They will run away from the meeting and they've been willing to talk to us.
We've got some, also, some more jobs.
I mean, I'm inviting ships that are going to go up in that space.
I've got no use for that kind of thing.
I think Trotsky and I are just the same.
Moscow, I mean.
So, I told Bob this morning, I don't know if you know, I don't know if you know, I don't know if you know, I don't know if you know
They want to help me, but they don't want to help these people that are sponge and gold working off the others.
I'm good.
It's helpful particularly to get into the personal disease.
There was a lot of speech writing on here, and of course I had to live with some things on my own.
And also a lot of the kids from Rio Grande High School, you know, had to stop.
I have a little story here.
A fellow speech writer who does this said, no, I'll take the price of the pros, and that's fine, too.
A little of the pros, a little of that.
A little of the antics, a little of that.
That get-around, another thing that you might do is to get down to the area where Bob was going to have really done.
Not only that, but all the Republican members of the caucus and all the Southern Democrats.
This is an issue that really strikes home right now.
They have a high tax on the welfare of the streets.
It's a lot of money.
And the problem right now, of course, is that it's pretty hurtful.
It puts me back in the fire again.
I miss him.
You know, I've got to go nearly as far as I could.
In fact, the trouble is, it penalizes itself.
It's 100 an hour.
It's tough to get back into the situation.
It's really tough.
It's really tough.
You know, you don't have to have balance.
That's a good call.
Now check up today.
Check out today to see what's happening out there.
These guys now, they can't take the shit you're laughing at.
They talk about courage now.
They do that.
Check today.
Have a door or somebody, somebody just want to make a speech.
Where are they here?
They won't stand up and be counted on either side.
Take a look.
I can give you the book.
That's it.
That's enough.
Whatever.
Yeah.
Well, now let's see what they did today.
They have to go today.
They did table.
Let's come down.
Good.
Oh, yeah.
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