Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 725 › Conversation 725-037

Nixon & Bull on Camp David and Soviet Union trip

Tuesday, May 16, 1972 · 5:40 PM–5:43 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  [Unknown person(s)];  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation725-037 onTape 725 (tape position 04:55:33–04:57:04)StartTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 5:40 PMEndTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 5:43 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 725-037 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull and an unknown individual to coordinate upcoming logistical and scheduling matters. The discussion centered on arrangements for a trip to Camp David, preparations for an impending Soviet visit, and the scheduling of a meeting with John Cardinal Krol. Additionally, the group addressed administrative concerns regarding personnel workloads, including those of Rose Mary Woods and Marjorie P. Acker, alongside the receipt of materials from John B. Connally.

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Transcript (AI-generated)

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4:56:09Well, I don't want to be another Senator Elmer.
4:56:12He's got a new conference on my table.
4:56:16He's got the old one.
4:56:17He's got the new one.
4:56:18The hell with that.
4:56:19Give him a pen for his life.
4:56:20Yeah, he's got a pen.
4:56:33Yes, sir.
4:56:34And what do we have for his wife?
4:56:36I don't know.
4:56:37I don't know.
4:56:38I don't know.
4:57:07I'll give that to you.

NARA Description

On May 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:40 pm and 5:43 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 725-037 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 725-37

Date: May 16, 1972
Time: Unknown between 5:40 pm and 5:43 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with an unknown man.

      Manolo Sanchez
         -Condition
         -Call from unknown man
               -Day

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:40 pm.

      President's schedule
          -Camp David trip
                -Marjorie P. Acker's schedule
                      -Rose Mary Woods's schedule
                           -Workload
          -President's preparation for Soviet trip
          -Acker's workload
                -Woods
          -Meeting with John Cardinal Krol
                -Oval Office meeting
                      -Time before Sequoia cruise
                      -Photograph arrangements
          -Packet from John B. Connally
          -Meeting with Krol
                -Time

Bull and the unknown man left at an unknown time before 5:43 pm.

                                        (rev. Jan-02)

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  • 024-155 3:59 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:59 pm to 4:10 pm.
  • 725-035 4:58 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Clark MacGregor, David C. Hoopes, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:58 pm and 5:05 pm.
  • 725-036 5:05 PM · 32 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John N. Mitchell, Ray C. Bliss, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:05 pm to 5:40 pm.
  • 725-038 5:43 PM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John Cardinal Krol, Stephen B. Bull, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:43 pm to 5:54 pm.
  • 725-043 5:54 PM · 12 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:54 pm and 11:59 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 725-037, May 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/725-037 (accessed September 18, 2026).