Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 37 › Conversation 037-061

Nixon, Haldeman & Rogers on Economic aid and North Vietnam

Wednesday, March 7, 1973 · 4:15 PM–5:50 PM ET · White House Telephone · 3 min

ParticipantsHaldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Rogers, William P.; Nixon, Richard M. (President)Conversation037-061 on Tape 37StartWednesday, March 7, 1973 at 4:15 PMEndWednesday, March 7, 1973 at 5:50 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 037-061 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417195263 ↗

AI Summary

H. R. Haldeman coordinated with Secretary of State William P. Rogers to schedule a one-on-one briefing with President Nixon and to arrange for Rogers to deliver a presentation at an upcoming Cabinet meeting. The discussion focused on preparing the administration to defend the budget and the surrogate program while establishing the case for providing economic aid to North Vietnam. Additionally, the participants reflected on the positive reception and leadership praise generated during a recent dinner with presidential supporters.

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NARA Description

On March 7, 1973, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, William P. Rogers, and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:15 pm and 5:50 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 037-061 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 37-61

Date: March 7, 1973
Time: Unknown between 4:15 pm and 5:50 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President and an unknown person can be heard in the background.

[See Conversation No. 418-2A]

       President’s schedule

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman talked with William P. Rogers.

       President's schedule
              -Meeting with Rogers

       Cabinet meeting
              -Rogers's presentation
              -Economic aid to North Vietnam
              -Budget
                     -Surrogate program
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       President’s schedule

       President's dinner with supporters
              -Reaction
              -President’s leadership abilities

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Secretary Rogers, this is Haldeman.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Hello?
Hi, Bill.
Hi, Bob.
A couple quick things.
One, the president wanted to get together with you to get a rundown on the conference and all, and wondered if Friday afternoon would be convenient for you on that.
Yeah, fine.
Because he's piled up until then.
Yeah, well, let's talk about that.
And you want to make that about 3.30?
That'd be fine.
Okay.
And also, he wondered if you could...
plan on giving a 15-minute overview on the thing to the cabinet on friday morning and may focus it on the pitch for aid so that they get the story on that the basic thing on the academy is going to be domestic they're going to hit them on the surrogate program on the budget and all but he wanted to get the
The background on the need for aid thing established, too, so that when they're out speaking, they're aware of that.
Yeah, that's good.
I'd be very glad to do that.
All right.
3.30 on Friday afternoon, and the cabinet meeting is?
10 o'clock Friday morning.
10 o'clock Friday morning.
Fine, Bob.
Okay.
How did the fat cat thing go yesterday?
I guess fine.
I thought the reaction was good.
The reaction was all just sensational on it, and so I think it went extremely well.
some of the ones that i thought it's fun to get them there because they ask questions that have sort of you know obvious yeah conservative questions and then when they get the answers they're pretty well satisfied yeah that's it we've got a pretty good case and obviously you got it through because they the reaction was was very solid right i you know i kept telling them i said you know the thing is that when you have a a man who's growing and becomes a great great leader
You don't recognize it here at home because you're close to them and you've been a part of it.
And I said, when I go abroad, I realize that I know because I know what other people think.
That's a good way to make that point.
That's right.
Because it's absolutely true and they understand that when you put it that way.
Exactly.
Okay, Bob.
Great.
Thank you.
Thanks, Bob.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 037-061, March 7, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417195263). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/037-061 (accessed November 2, 2026).