Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 44 › Conversation 044-012

Dean & Ziegler on Watergate scandal and Public relations

Thursday, March 22, 1973 · 2:26 PM–3:28 PM ET · White House Telephone · 28 sec

ParticipantsDean, John W., III; Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation044-012 on Tape 44StartThursday, March 22, 1973 at 2:26 PMEndThursday, March 22, 1973 at 3:28 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 044-012 ↗

John W. Dean III and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler coordinate the White House's public relations strategy regarding the ongoing Watergate investigation. Dean emphasizes the necessity of delaying official statements until the administration has fully verified the facts to avoid premature or inaccurate disclosures. They agree to meet in person to further align their messaging after their respective briefings conclude.

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Ron?
Yeah.
John?
Yeah.
How we doing?
Very well.
We're still trying to sort the thing out.
Okay.
It's important that we sort it out before we go running out there, you know.
I agree.
We just can't go out there and scream something out here until we have the facts.
Okay.
I'll be over when this breaks up.
Okay.

On March 22, 1973, John W. Dean, III and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:26 pm and 3:28 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 044-012 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 044-012

Date: March 22, 1973
Time: Unknown between 2:26 pm and 3:28 pm

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

Location: White House Telephone

John W. Dean, III talked with Ronald Ziegler.

       Preparation for press statement
            -Watergate investigation
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Conversation 044-012, March 22, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/044-012 (accessed October 2, 2026).