Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 410 › Conversation 410-008

Nixon & Ziegler on Communication strategy and Press Secretary

Tuesday, March 13, 1973 · 2:45 PM–3:00 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation410-008 on Tape 410StartTuesday, March 13, 1973 at 2:45 PMEndTuesday, March 13, 1973 at 3:00 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 410-008 ↗

President Nixon directed Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler to place a telephone call to an unidentified woman. During the exchange, Nixon instructed Ziegler to frame the call as being made at the President’s suggestion to relay a specific message or inquiry. They also briefly discussed logistical arrangements, including the potential recording of the conversation and the provision of technical equipment.

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I'll call her.
Yeah, you can call her out here.
And I'll tell her that you're calling in my suggestion to read this word that the president wants to know.
And give him the battery.
No problem, whatever it is.
It doesn't matter.
Should I record you?

On March 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:45 pm and 3:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 410-008 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 410-8

Date: March 13, 1973
Time: Unknown between 2:45 pm and 3:00 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

       Telephone call to unknown woman
             -President’s suggestion
             -Ziegler's report to the President

Ziegler left at an unknown time before 3:00 pm.
  • 410-005 1:49 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:49 pm to 1:50 pm.
  • 410-006 1:50 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:50 pm and 2:45 pm.
  • 410-007 1:50 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:50 pm and 2:45 pm.
  • 410-009 2:45 PM · 12 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:45 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 410-010 3:00 PM · 59 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:00 pm to 4:00 pm.
  • 878-015 3:01 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:01 pm to 3:12 pm.
  • 119-001 3:13 PM — President Richard M. Nixon and selected Cabinet officers and Administration officials, including Earl L. Butz, J. Philip Campbell, Claude S. Brinegar, Henri F. Rush, Jr., William E. Simon, John T. Dunlop, James W. McLane, Herbert Stein, Marina von Neumann Whitman, John D. Ehrlichman, Roy L. Ash, Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft, Frederic V. Malek, Kenneth W. Dam, Philip A. Odeen, Tod R. Hullin, Richard M. Fairbanks, III, William Morrill, and Gary L. Seevers, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 3:13 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 878-016 3:13 PM · 36 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at 3:13 pm.

Conversation 410-008, March 13, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/410-008 (accessed October 1, 2026).