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Conversation 440-038

TapeTape 440StartThursday, May 24, 1973 at 1:36 PMEndThursday, May 24, 1973 at 1:38 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Scott, HughRecording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AudioNARA Description

On May 24, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Hugh Scott met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:36 pm to 1:38 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 440-038 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 440-38

Date: May 24, 1973
Time: 1:36 pm - 1:38 pm
Location: Old Executive Office Building

The President talked with Hugh Scott.

[See Conversation No. 39-4]
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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John, I thought you should know that Ziegler and all of our fellows here thought you were never so great as you were yesterday.
And I'm very grateful.
And I'm most grateful.
Now, let's stick to what you read.
You say that's one thing we can't say, that without secrecy and secret diplomacy, we wouldn't have had the Chinese, we wouldn't have had the Soviet limitation, and the POW would still be in Vietnam, in North Vietnam.
And therefore, it is a great, you know, it's a great irony when
to steal the secrets and publish them, and then, though, to try to protect the national security so that we can conduct negotiations for peace.
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