Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 719 › Conversation 719-016

Nixon & Bull on Frank E. Fitzsimmons and Charles W. Colson

Thursday, May 4, 1972 · 12:47 PM–12:49 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation719-016 on Tape 719 (tape position 02:46:54–02:48:32)StartThursday, May 4, 1972 at 12:47 PMEndThursday, May 4, 1972 at 12:49 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 719-016 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his daily schedule and manage upcoming appointments. The discussion focused on logistics for meetings with Frank E. Fitzsimmons and Nellie L. Yates. Additionally, Nixon provided specific instructions for Bull to relay to Charles W. Colson.

Audio

part B, 44:59

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NARA Description

On May 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:47 pm and 12:49 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 719-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 719-16

Date: May 4, 1972
Time: Unknown after 12:47 pm and before 12:49 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     President's schedule

           -Meeting with Frank E. Fitzsimmons
           -Meeting with Nellie L. Yates
           -Meeting with Fitzsimmons
                -Instructions for Charles W. Colson

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:49 pm.

Transcript (AI-generated)

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I don't think you'll have to come up this weekend.
I'm afraid I'm gonna be just too mad to see you.

Also recorded on May 4, 1972

  • 719-013 12:22 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:22 pm and 12:28 pm.
  • 719-014 12:22 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:22 pm and 12:28 pm.
  • 719-015 12:22 PM · 21 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, Rose Mary Woods, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:22 pm and 12:47 pm.
  • 719-017 12:49 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Nellie L. Yates met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:49 pm to 12:51 pm.
  • 719-018 12:51 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:51 pm and 12:56 pm.
  • 719-019 12:56 PM · 26 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Frank E. Fitzsimmons, Raymond Schoessling, Joseph Trerotola, William J. McCarthy, Welon L. Mathis, Charles W. Colson, White House photographer, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:56 pm to 1:21 pm.
  • 719-020 1:21 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:21 pm and 1:24 pm.
  • 719-021 1:21 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:21 pm and 1:24 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 719-016, May 4, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/719-016 (accessed November 2, 2026).