Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 795 › Conversation 795-018

Nixon, Ziegler & Haldeman on Busing legislation and Press relations

Tuesday, October 10, 1972 · 3:43 PM–3:49 PM ET · Oval Office ·4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.; Sanchez, Manolo; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation795-018 onTape 795StartTuesday, October 10, 1972 at 3:43 PMEndTuesday, October 10, 1972 at 3:49 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 795-018 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with his staff, including Ronald Ziegler and H.R. Haldeman, to coordinate the logistics for an upcoming meeting and photograph session with Senate leaders regarding busing legislation. The participants focused on timing the session to ensure optimal media coverage and press accessibility. Additionally, the President managed routine administrative matters, including his personal schedule, correspondence with Congressmen, and a barber appointment.

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Do you see if the fire is available now?

I just want to tell you, I think I've got a problem.

I have an idea or two.

So if you're near the end of what I know, it's been very hard to listen to John in the campaign.

I would wish you the best on the front of some American need in Europe.

Need your, uh, uh, yeah.

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

This is only on this subject.

Be sure to bring these people in here.

The main thing you must tell them is in order to reach the press, they don't have to.

We have to be out here before 20.

Before we can figure this out, before it's a gentleman in order to catch the press, we'll have to go out now.

Once they're in, there's no point in keeping them out.

That's right.

Tomorrow's the 18th, huh?

NARA Description

On October 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Manolo Sanchez, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:43 pm to 3:49 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 795-018 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 795-18

Date: October 10, 1972
Time: 3:43 pm - 3:49 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

         Busing
             -The President's meeting with Senate leaders
                 -Photograph session

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:43 pm.

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                                        (rev. Nov-03)

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 8s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Sanchez left and H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at an unknown time before 3:43 pm.

        The President’s meeting with Senate leaders
            -Photograph session
                -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., William E. Timmons
                -Press

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:43 p.m.

        The President's schedule
            -Barber
            -Letters

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:49 pm.

Ziegler left at an unknown time before 3:43 pm.

        Letters to Congressmen
            -1972 election

Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:43 pm.

        The President’s schedule
            -Barber

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 14s ]

                                        (rev. Nov-03)

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:49 pm.

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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        The President’s schedule
            -Meeting with Senate leaders
                -[Busing legislation]
                -Press

Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:43 pm.

        The President's schedule
            -Meeting with Senate leaders
                -Timmons
                -Press
                -Ziegler
            -Barber

The President, Bull and Haldeman left at 3:49 pm.

Also recorded on October 10, 1972

795-017 1:37 PM · 32 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Manolo Sanchez, Alexander P. Butterfield, Stephen B. Bull, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:37 pm to 2:30 pm.
366-001 2:30 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:30 pm and 2:40 pm.
366-002 2:30 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:30 pm and 2:40 pm.
366-003 2:40 PM · 23 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Marjorie P. Acker, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:40 pm to 3:37 pm.
795-019 3:49 PM · 18 sec — United States Secret Service agents and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:49 pm and 3:59 pm.
795-020 3:59 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Rose Mary Woods, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:59 pm and 4:02 pm.
795-021 4:02 PM · 24 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Howard H. Baker, Jr., Harry F. Byrd, Jr., James L. Buckley, Robert P. Griffin, John G. Tower, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., Edward L. Morgan, Ronald L. Ziegler, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:02 pm to 4:26 pm.
795-022 4:26 PM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Zosimo T. Monzon, Stephen B. Bull, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:26 pm and 4:45 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 795-018, October 10, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/795-018 (accessed September 18, 2026).