Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 872 › Conversation 872-005

Nixon & Bull on White House staffing and Personnel management

Thursday, March 8, 1973 · 11:44 AM–11:55 AM ET · Oval Office · 56 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation872-005 on Tape 872StartThursday, March 8, 1973 at 11:44 AMEndThursday, March 8, 1973 at 11:55 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 872-005 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed the protocol for managing meetings with departing staff members and senior departmental officials. The President outlined criteria for granting exit interviews, specifically distinguishing between those moving to other government positions versus those leaving the administration entirely. They also addressed the inclusion of personal friends in farewell photograph sessions as part of these transitions.

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This is our I would not see people just go on another.
The ones that were in the future.
Thank you.

NARA Description

On March 8, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:44 am and 11:55 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 872-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 872-5

Date: March 8, 1973
Time: Unknown between 11:44 am and 11:55 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President's schedule
             -Types of meetings with departing staff members
                    -Change to other government jobs
                    -White House staff
                    -Departmental senior officials
                          -Patricia R. Hitt
                    -Friends of President
                          -Photographs

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:55 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 872-005, March 8, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/872-005 (accessed October 6, 2026).